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Old 09-09-2011, 02:23 AM
 
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More than a quarter of Texans lack health insurance, the highest rate in the nation, placing a crushing burden on hospitals and doctors who treat patients unable to pay.

Those costs are passed to the insured. Insurance premiums have risen more quickly in Texas than they have nationally over the last seven years. And when compared with incomes, insurance in Texas is less affordable than in every state but Mississippi, according to the nonprofit Commonwealth Fund.
Texas healthcare system withering under Gov. Rick Perry - latimes.com

Some say that Texas is a model for the rest of the country to follow. Really?
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Old 09-09-2011, 03:38 AM
 
Location: Unperson Everyman Land
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Texas healthcare system withering under Gov. Rick Perry - latimes.com

Some say that Texas is a model for the rest of the country to follow. Really?


"More than a quarter of Texans lack health insurance, the highest rate in the nation, placing a crushing burden on hospitals and doctors who treat patients unable to pay.

Those costs are passed to the insured. Insurance premiums have risen more quickly in Texas than they have nationally over the last seven years. And when compared with incomes, insurance in Texas is less affordable than in every state but Mississippi, according to the nonprofit Commonwealth Fund."



Compared in what way?

The LA Times article doesn't link directly to the Commonwealth Fund study so I'm not sure how this conclusion was reached.

Do you have a link to the actual study?
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Old 09-09-2011, 05:43 AM
 
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"More than a quarter of Texans lack health insurance, the highest rate in the nation, placing a crushing burden on hospitals and doctors who treat patients unable to pay.

Those costs are passed to the insured. Insurance premiums have risen more quickly in Texas than they have nationally over the last seven years. And when compared with incomes, insurance in Texas is less affordable than in every state but Mississippi, according to the nonprofit Commonwealth Fund."


Compared in what way?

The LA Times article doesn't link directly to the Commonwealth Fund study so I'm not sure how this conclusion was reached.

Do you have a link to the actual study?
Illegal aliens drive up the cost of insurance AND property taxes in Texas. FACT!!

Study: Illegal immigrants cost Texas, hospitals $677 million - Houston Chronicle
It is significant that the 4 states with the highest number of uninsured patients are the southern Border States that also have the highest burden of illegal immigrants: California, Arizona, New Mexico and Texas.
Illegal Immigration Healthcare Costs Affect YOU! | AAPS News of the Day Blog

Texas cities/counties adjacent to the border have the highest incidence of uninsured that skews the figures for the remainder of the state. IF the feds had enforced the immigration policies, Texas would not have this problem. The state can do little to address this problem as long as Obama and the federal government sues each border state over legislation designed to enforce current federal laws. Example: Arizona.
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Old 09-09-2011, 06:37 AM
 
Location: SC
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Texas healthcare system withering under Gov. Rick Perry - latimes.com

Some say that Texas is a model for the rest of the country to follow. Really?
Sorry. People in the northeast pay MUCH more for health insurance than they do in Texas. NY, NJ, MA, VT, ME, RI all pay the equivalent of mortgage payments for health insurance. CA is another bad state for health insurance.

Just go to any of the national health insurance quoting sites and type in a zip code to see what availability and rates are. Sometimes the health insurance situation is so bad, the carriers have left the state and people are stuck with the state based Blue Cross plan or some local HMO type plan which is all Massachusetts and RI have.

The reason health insurance is so terrible in the NE is that those states with the exception of NH and CT don't have proper high risk pools which would enable the private insurers to give the majority of the people affordable health insurance rates.

The other thing that would lower health insurance rates would be to GET RID OF THE STUPID GOVERMENT MANDATES that insist health insurance should pay for preventative stuff and diagnostics when you aren't sick.

Does your auto insurance cover your 50k mile maintenance? I don't think so. We'd have an auto insurance crisis right now too if the government got away with being as foolish as they've been about forcing the health insurers to "cover" everything under the sun.

In MA they'll even pay for a hair transplant if you are balding. How medically necessary is that? Why should others be forced to pay for non medically necessary hair transplants or anything that is non-medically necessary for that matter?
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Old 09-09-2011, 06:48 AM
 
Location: Tampa Florida
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In MA they'll even pay for a hair transplant if you are balding. How medically necessary is that? Why should others be forced to pay for non medically necessary hair transplants or anything that is non-medically necessary for that matter?
Could you look at a bald Romney?
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Old 09-09-2011, 07:12 AM
 
Location: SC
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Could you look at a bald Romney?
He'd look ok without hair. In any event, I don't think MA residents and businesses should be forced to pay, through much higher health insurance premiums, for a hair transplant for him if he or anyone else just simply wanted one to increase his/their precious self-esteem.
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Old 09-09-2011, 08:11 AM
 
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The FREE western states also have Catastrophe insurance . Designed not to have you loose everything if you are very sick .
$5,000 deductible for $100 a month is great for me . They don't consider this FULL insurance , so they don't count it .
In the northeast that plan is not available , under Obama care it will be unavailable in the west also.

Thanks Obama .
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Old 09-09-2011, 08:28 AM
 
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Texas healthcare system withering under Gov. Rick Perry - latimes.com

Some say that Texas is a model for the rest of the country to follow. Really?
Don't forget you have Federal restrictions that prevent every state from having cheaper health care.

Cross border competition.
The ability to create groups for cheaper coverage by people with private policies.
No tort reform yet.
The introduction by Carter of the middle man between your doctor and you which has taken money from the doctor and patient to support these middle man jobs that should go away.

Lots can be done.
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Old 09-09-2011, 08:34 AM
 
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Texas healthcare system withering under Gov. Rick Perry - latimes.com

Some say that Texas is a model for the rest of the country to follow. Really?
Each state has different mandates on coverage as well as different utilization and non-participation rates. This makes comparisons very difficult.

Even to reflect the cost as a % of income if it were a fixed service or good is horrifically bad analysis.

Wow. A Ford escape is a higher % of income in Texas than Massachusetts....wow...that's totally Perry's fault.

I dislike Perry and would never vote for him, but I probably dislike watching mental monkey math even more. Whomever did this "analysis" needs to quit wasting our time and get me my dang fries.
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Old 09-09-2011, 08:35 AM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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Texas healthcare system withering under Gov. Rick Perry - latimes.com

Some say that Texas is a model for the rest of the country to follow. Really?
What portion of the uninsured, draining hospital funds, in Texas are criminal aliens? This administration has made it clear that (in their opinion) the enforcement of border security laws can only be done by the federal government. So, why isn't the executive branch doing it's job?
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