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If you think for a second the United States and the United Nations are one entitiy, you got a lot of study to do.
You do agree, that the United Nations is a foreign entity right?
Actually, NO.
The United Nations is an international entity. The fact that we were integral to its founding, and that we have a profound influence on its activities disproves your argument.
Um, you kinda just proved my point. The United Nations can't stop a war that breaks out - it has no military power. So it might ask for help from its founding members. The United States is one of them, and has the largest military. Therefore the UN might ask us to help in an international crisis.
um. the blue helmet guys are UN soldiers. where do they come from?
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Yes, because the United Nations isn't forcing us to do it.
So who is? Obama right? Bush before him, right?
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Can you show me where we are required to do anything the United Nations asks us to do? This is no different than the Prime Minister of England calling up Obama and saying, hey, seeing as we're allies and all, we could use your help in this matter. Obama can say sure, the US will help you, or he can say, sorry, we can't afford the commitment.
Since when is a request a destruction of sovereignty?
When you're trying to police the world, who knows which country sees that as foul and get upset behind it. you never know.
If it controls the actions of America in every eay, it's much more than just an "Organization"..
try again. I'm listening.
It does not control the actions of the United States. You clearly believe this, but it's a false belief. I don't know what your sources of information are, but they are incorrect.
Try this, if the United Nations controlled the actions of the United States, why did the United States go to war in Iraq over the objections of the United Nations? Where was their control then? Where was their control when President Obama sent a force into Pakistan to get Osama bin Laden? The United Nations has explicitly said they did not approve of how we handled that situation. Our President did not consult with them about it beforehand. So where's the control that you so ardently believe exists? Answer: the United States is not controlled by the United Nations.
If you think for a second the United States and the United Nations are one entitiy, you got a lot of study to do.
You do agree, that the United Nations is a foreign entity right?
No, UN is an international treaty, not a foreign entity. Last I checked, its head quarter was actually in the USA as an international organization. And USA was key to its foundation. Participating in such treaties is well within the confines of the US Constitution. It ain't something likes of Hannity, Rush Limbaugh and Glenn Beck want you to know. So, try to help yourself instead.
The United Nations is an international entity. The fact that we were integral to its founding, and that we have a profound influence on its activities disproves your argument.
So if it's "International" that alone makes it a conflict if America is only one Nation and Sovereign from the others. this is why the Constitution is so vital. over the coming years the UN will surely gray those Sovereign lines and then you'll say "ah heck, we were international anyway"
like a frog in a pot of slow boiling water. dead in due time
you people scream conspiracy like it's a taboo word, hell Lincoln, JFK, MLK were all conspired against. Even when America goes to war we "conspire" against the enemy. but when the conspiracy is against the America people by those that are suppose to protect us and uphold our constitution, you don't wanna believe it? why is that. ??
and I have yet to get my answer:
WHY DO YOU THINK OBAMA TOOK THE SEAT FOR A DAY?? he didn't have to, so why did he?
No, UN is an international treaty, not a foreign entity. Last I checked, its head quarter was actually in the USA as an international organization. And USA was key to its foundation. Participating in such treaties is well within the confines of the US Constitution.
And last time I checked the Federal Reserve is no more Federal than Federal Express...what's your point? are they woven into our Constitution as well?
China even owns some American soil. they can come get it tomorrow if they wanted to. what's your point, dude?
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It ain't something likes of Hannity, Rush Limbaugh and Glenn Beck want you to know. So, try to help yourself instead.
So if it's "International" that alone makes it a conflict if America is only one Nation and Sovereign from the others. this is why the Constitution is so vital. over the coming years the UN will surely gray those Sovereign lines and then you'll say "ah heck, we were international anyway"
like a frog in a pot of slow boiling water. dead in due time
you people scream conspriacy like it's a taboo word, hell Lincoln, JFK, MLK were all conspired against. Even when America goes to war we "conspire" against the enemy. but when the conspiracy is against the people you don't wanna beleive it? why is that. ??
Yes, it's international. The United States is one nation, sovereign. And is also a founding member of the United Nations. The Constitution is vital. But the United Nations has not power to "gray those sovereign lines", and no one has said that the United States is international at all.
I'd happily believe in a conspiracy if you had any proof of one. You haven't offered any proof. You've invested yourself in fear. But there's not substance to this conspiracy that you're afraid of. Please consider that. There is nothing to substantiate this conspiracy you are afraid of. You have no proof of a conspiracy, but rather, a bunch of "ifs" and "what-ifs". The President chaired a Security Council meeting once, a couple of years ago. That's scary, because???? Because you've been told a bunch of "what-ifs".
Being scared of an unsubstantiated conspiracy is like being scared of the dark. It's not the dark that is to be feared, because the dark has no substance. You need to find something substantive, something real, to be concerned about. Find proof of a conspiracy, not a bunch of "what-ifs" and share that. Because right now, other posters are just trying to shed some light in your darkness.
um. the blue helmet guys are UN soldiers. where do they come from?
They are peacekeepers. They are part of their respective government's military, not the UN, even though they sign up to serve under UN direction.
Most of these operations are established and implemented by the United Nations itself, with troops serving under UN operational control. In these cases, peacekeepers remain members of their respective armed forces, and do not constitute an independent "UN army", as the UN does not have such a force.
You can go to the United Nation's website and apply under their career section to be a peacekeeper.
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So who is? Obama right? Bush before him, right?
What do you mean? Obviously if the UN requests help from the United States, it's up to the President and Congress to agree.
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When you're trying to police the world, who knows which country sees that as foul and get upset behind it. you never know.
Most of the world hates us for being the modern day Roman Empire. But what does that have to do with the UN?
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