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View Poll Results: Your position on gay rights
I am a full supporter for all gay rights. 162 50.00%
I support some aspects of gay rights. 37 11.42%
I think that homosexuals and heterosexuals both have equal rights. 91 28.09%
I think that being gay is a sin, and therefore none of them should have rights. 34 10.49%
Voters: 324. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 09-16-2011, 11:50 AM
 
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Yeah, let's not settle differences and make peace with each other. Let's keep the fighting on-going. Hate to tell you, toots, but that's what "stupid people" do.
Do you think based on the way that gays are treated by society they should be the one's kneeling before heterosexuals to make "peace"?

Should Jews cower and give in to the demands of the Gentile world just because they're the smallest well known minority in the world?
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Old 09-16-2011, 11:50 AM
 
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Agree, they are two different concepts.
And it begs the question: Why are they always lumped into the same "LGBT community"?
L-lesbian
G-gay
B-bisexual
T-transgender
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Old 09-16-2011, 11:53 AM
 
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About half of the married couples in the US are NOT raising children.

About 30% of lesbian couples and 20% of gay couples ARE raising children.

Gay and lesbian couples also have extended families.

So basically your argument is that gay and lesbian couples raising children can go jump, but straight couples with no children can get all the rights, benefits and protections.
I give you exhibit A:




Such a cute family! Those are lucky kids. NPH is awesome!
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Old 09-16-2011, 11:54 AM
 
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Why NOT? What's wrong with finding some common ground?
A "compromise" like blacks having separate water fountains and sitting at the back of the bus? Because some people had the emotional and social maturity of dummy spitting two year olds?
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Old 09-16-2011, 11:55 AM
 
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So I take it that the fact that the SCOTUS called marriage a "basic right of man" 40 some years ago means nothing to you?
He's been told that countless times, but apparently since a marriage license costs money for administrative fees, it's not a "right" no matter what the SCOTUS says.
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Old 09-16-2011, 11:56 AM
 
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L-lesbian
G-gay
B-bisexual
T-transgender
Right, I know what it stands for.
But they are clearly two separate things.

There is a huge difference between being attracted to someone of the same sex
and
believing you were born the wrong sex and thereby surgical altering yourself to match such a belief.

They are apples and oranges.

It would be like lumping heterosexuals and agoraphobics together, for example.
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Old 09-16-2011, 11:57 AM
 
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Agree, they are two different concepts.
And it begs the question: Why are they always lumped into the same "LGBT community"?
Because they all share the same goals for equality, dignity, and understanding. And all deal with orientation or gender identity issues, so it made sense for them to band together as a group.
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Old 09-16-2011, 11:59 AM
 
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Right, I know what it stands for.
But they are clearly two separate things.

There is a huge difference between being attracted to someone of the same sex
and
believing you were born the wrong sex and thereby surgical altering yourself to match such a belief.

They are apples and oranges.

It would be like lumping heterosexuals and agoraphobics together, for example.
Transgender doesn't necessarily mean transsexual. Transsexuals are the ones who believe they were born in the wrong body and seek to fix it through surgery. All transsexuals are transgender. Not all transgenders are transsexual.
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Old 09-16-2011, 12:01 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas, NV
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Marriage is between a man and a woman, period.
I am for nothing less than civil unions with full rights for same-sex couples.
Really? Can you please explain why?
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Adoption? Undecided. A child needs a loving family, at the end of the day.
But there's way too much of a push on the "2-mommies / 2 daddies" bit.
The only "pushing" I see is from the other side - those who make the claims that two moms with a couple of kids or two dads with a few kids aren't a family. The composition of a family depends on the individuals within the group that calls themselves family. Anyone else's opinion is merely that - opinion.
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No special rights, no AA, no scholarships, no "sensitivity training,"
no hate-crime status (a crime is a crime).
I can go along with most of that. But sensitivity training is just that - teaching people to treat other people as people. If parents did more of that with their children while raising them, there might be less need of it in the workplace, the schools and such.
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Also, people who beat down churches because they have a problem with the incompatibility
of a homosexual lifestyle and Christianity need to remember this:
(Obviously I'm speaking from the point of view of a Christian person, so if you're a flaming vegan atheist
or the like, just please skip this part instead of getting your blood pressure up)

The church and/or its members may state an opinion. But God loves every one of us.
Homosexuality is a sin, as is premarital sex--for example--depending on the church.
Homosexuals in church are no different from any other sinners in those pews, and their sin is between them and God.
It is not for me to preach to anyone how God feels about any of his children.
And this Christian is going to disagree - in 50 years of Bible study, I've found no evidence that how one is born can be any kind of sin. And one is definitely born homosexual, heterosexual, bisexual or other. It is not a choice, it does no harm to others, thus it is not a sin.
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Old 09-16-2011, 12:01 PM
 
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Nope you don't. There are countless pastors and Sunday School teachers who regurgitate the same tired, flawed, out of context explanations of the Bible. Most Christians know nothing about the Bible. You're no different. You don't even understand basic science. I seriously doubt your qualifications for teaching something as complicated as Biblical hermeneutics. So, feel free to keep exalting yourself up to God's throne, but I don't trust a word you say.
Agreed. He appears to have a deeply shallow understanding.
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