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Old 09-17-2011, 07:34 PM
 
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If Obama is really so socialist then why is wallstreet doing so well?




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Old 09-17-2011, 07:58 PM
 
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Jim Cramer nailed it; so why the thread? You answered your own question.
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Old 09-17-2011, 08:00 PM
 
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All you have to do is lok at hios policies and what they are doing.Obama is constantly naming them and business the enemy. They basically really tho are like everyone else;not see much but future licailites coming and uncetain policies that seem to be a new assult every speech.He is the most anti-business president and that means wall street will ot invest like it should be. Hunkered down by polcies that creat only more debt;unceertainity in the future and in the presnt.;is what consumers;business and wall streeet see.
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Old 09-17-2011, 08:17 PM
 
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Jim Cramer nailed it; so why the thread?
Because there is a perception out there that Obama is this "socialist" who is going to do wallstreet and capitalism in. Ever heard of the tea party?
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Old 09-17-2011, 08:26 PM
 
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Obama is a 100% Wall St puppet. Just look at the lack of convictions for the financial crisis and look at how many bankers are in his administration.
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Old 09-17-2011, 08:32 PM
 
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Obama is a 100% Wall St puppet. Just look at the lack of convictions for the financial crisis and looks at how many bankers are in his administration.
Of course he is. He may talk the talk, but he's not walking the walk, and that goes for the Republican party also. They're both the same just talk differently.
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Old 09-17-2011, 08:34 PM
 
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Obama is a 100% Wall St puppet. Just look at the lack of convictions for the financial crisis and looks at how many bankers are in his administration.
What should he have done? Yes wallstreet needs to be regulated but you can't strangle wallstreet.
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Old 09-17-2011, 08:57 PM
 
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What should he have done? Yes wallstreet needs to be regulated but you can't strangle wallstreet.
He should have reached out to someone like Bill Black, the guy who got more than 1,000 convictions from the savings and loan scandal and Obama should not have surrounded himself with many of the same people who helped cause the crisis like little Tim Geithner or Larry Summers. This is a big part of the reason why the economy has not recovered.
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Old 09-17-2011, 08:57 PM
 
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Because there is a perception out there that Obama is this "socialist" who is going to do wallstreet and capitalism in. Ever heard of the tea party?
Were you listening to Cramer at all or only tingle up the leg Matthews?

These corporations are not going to move to expand or hire significantly within the USA until Obama is GONE from office. His bureaucracies are handing out thousands of new regulations. Costs under Obamacare will skyrocket. Globally there is contraction in the US and a significant part of Europe.

Just look what Obama's NLRB has been trying to do to Boeing. What major corporation in their right mind would invest in new factories here after that B.S.?! Much easier to build in Mexico, China, or anywhere but the USA.

Most of these Wallstreet mega-corporations are large enough to float above what this POTUS would try to do to them. They are invested in China, India, Brazil, and other areas in emerging markets enough to continue growth and increase manufacturing there, not here in the USA. Here they sit on their cash due to the uncertainty caused by Obama's policies and agenda.

You also cannot accept the numbers of Wallstreet as presented by Matthews at face value. His was a static approach while the market is fluid. The volitity index is a symptom of pathology within the market ratings. Simply put, US real estate is in the toilet, the Euro isn't stable, the US Dollar isn't stable, municiple bonds pay next to nothing currently, and people are investing in one of the only places to get a return, the markets.

If the markets and world economy were as healthy as static numbers like Matthews attempted (but failed) to argue, gold would not continue to hold steady above 1800. The price of gold has doubled per oz. since Obama took office. The price of silver has increased x 3.5. This speaks to the monitization of our debt and devaluation of our US dollar as well as lack of confidence in our currency since Obama has been in office.

Wallstreet is only part of the picture. What Obama is doing to small businesses, small corporations, through his increased regualtion is much more onerous on Mainstreet than Wallstreet.

Figure it out. Obama has been very bad for the US economy. He, as liberals so like to put it, "inherited" a bad situation and then went about making it exponentially worse.

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Old 09-17-2011, 09:29 PM
 
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I'm pretty sure Jim Cramer is the guy who went on tv to screech that Obama's economic bills were "THE GREATEST DESTRUCTION OF WEALTH IN HISTORY!" immediately before Wall street began it's recovery and jobs began recovering. In other words, he doesn't have a good track record, although it was fun to watch him scream about the Bluth Company on Arrested Development.
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