Obama to cut Medicare

[earthlyfather]

It was never clear if the vouchers would have been adequate, or inadequate, since the projections of the voucher amounts were ten years in the future, when the program was scheduled to begin. Government projections, by neither Democratic nor Republicans is legendary for accuracy.

What is clear is the hue and cry by progressives that Ryan's plan was treacherous, when Obamacare had already diverted a half billion form Medicare to pay for the provisions of his act. Now, he adds another quarter billion to the tally. Both of these moves, btw, are intended to cut payments on the provider side. An increase in cost, whether from price increases and restriction of supply - Obamcare and now this proposal - , or whether by increasing patient cost - as alledged for the Ryan plan - is still an increase in cost.

It is simply the hypocrisy of the progressive stance, this spring and now, that is being debated here.

Originally Posted by MTAtech

Republicans are bi-polar. They want to end Medicare as we know it by converting it into a plan that offers vouchers that are insufficient to buy health insurance and then they deride Obama when he cuts some funds from Medicare. Make up your minds.

[jmking]

Originally Posted by residinghere2007

ITA with this. There is no reason why we cannot just give up Medicare for middle class and wealthy seniors while allowing Medicaid to stay and put poor seniors on the Medicaid rolls.

Really though I am fine with Obama's plan. It also is very balanced IMO and it is very amusing to me that those on the right find cutting cost in Medicare as something that is horrible when many conservatives would like to get rid of the program as we know it now.

There are three issues with this. 1-the reason medicare exists in the first place is private for-profit health insurance companies did not want and refused to cover the elderly, fact not fiction. 2- the way things stand now those middle class retirees will not be middle class for long if they have to pay extremely high premiums per-month not to mention co-pays, deductibles and more than likely get axed from insurance altogether. 3-medicaid is one bad huge horrible HMO. So forget about it.