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Old 01-11-2012, 05:54 PM
 
Location: North America
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It seems that negative ads are the number one way for citizens to learn about a candidate and why he or she is dangerous:


Anti-Chinese Jon Huntsman Ad by Ron Paul Group - YouTube

Was anti-Huntsman ad really anti-Ron Paul? — RT

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“Based on the evidence above and the coincidental timing of the release and subsequent events, it seems likely that a party close to the Huntsman campaign posted and distributed this video impersonating a Ron Paul supporter in order to cast Ron Paul and his campaign in a negative light,” reads a write-up from CanDo.com, a company commission by Paul to investigate the clip.

The video in question, titled “Jon Huntsman’s Vales” asks an Internet audience if the governor’s ideals are "American Values or Chinese?" and if "China Jon's Daughters [are] Even Adopted?" The video ends with the wording "American Values and Liberty Vote Ron Paul,” though the congressman has disavowed the clip. Both Huntsman and his daughters have repeatedly appeared on the mainstream media to voice their complaints with the clip.

Willie Horton 1988 Attack Ad - YouTube


Jesse Helms "Hands" ad - YouTube


Vote Different - YouTube

Racial fear ad...


Harold Ford Jr not for Tennessee - YouTube

People say they hate them but they work like a charm.

What gives?
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Old 01-11-2012, 06:04 PM
 
Location: Florida -
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Nobody really knows how to solve the horrific problems we are facing (or is willing to take on the politically unpopular 'cut spending' solution).

Therefore, the prevailing thought seems to be that negative attack ads ... separate one candidate who has no real solutions ... from other candidates who have no real solutions ... and from an administration that obviously has no real solutions (except negative attack ads on the ex-administration).
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Old 01-11-2012, 06:10 PM
 
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It seems that negative ads are the number one way for citizens to learn about a candidate and why he or she is dangerous:


Anti-Chinese Jon Huntsman Ad by Ron Paul Group - YouTube
since when is knowing Mandarin something negative? Are Ron Paul fan's really this ignorant? I wish I knew Mandarin.
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Old 01-11-2012, 06:17 PM
 
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No. It means that America is a gullible country and that the people who make the ads are the mean-spirited ones.
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Old 01-11-2012, 06:21 PM
 
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Those don't work on everyone and I would question the criticial thinking skills of people that are affected by them.
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Old 01-11-2012, 06:28 PM
 
Location: California
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Default Does The Fact that Negative Ads Work Indicate that America is a Mean-Spirited Country?

No not mean spirited, gullible yes and stupid, it's a shame people fall for this stuff and go along with it.
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Old 01-11-2012, 06:29 PM
 
Location: Beautiful Niagara Falls ON.
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Sadly because of the fact that the American people usually know next to nothing about those who are running for high office I feel that these ads fill an important purpose. Take Santorum for example. Without these types of ads would anyone realize just how in the pocket of big business the guy is? That he was an unregistered lobbiest raking in millions from special interests?????

These are facts that are very important in deciding if a person should be elected or not. Without the negative ads these types of facts might never get out to the regular people who are not political junkies like me.
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Old 01-11-2012, 06:30 PM
 
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Those don't work on everyone and I would question the criticial thinking skills of people that are affected by them.

Unfortunately there is no "critical thinking skills test" that has to be passed in order to be able to vote.
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Old 01-11-2012, 06:32 PM
 
Location: Old Bellevue, WA
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It is a truism that negative ads work, and I don't doubt it. Excellent post, OP!

Some other good examples: the daisy ad of LBJ against Goldwater in 1994; the race-baiting 'hate crime' ad by the NAACP against George W. Bush; the race-baiting Spanish language ads by Obama in 2008, which even ABC said was a low blow.
From the Fact Check Desk: Obama’s New Spanish Language TV Ad Es Erróneo - ABC News


Obama's Spanish Ad TRANSLATED!!! - YouTube
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Old 01-11-2012, 11:47 PM
 
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I don't see this as a negative ad. Frankly it doesn't say much. Just points out he seems a bit Chinese obsessed and strange.

The fact that he was quoting a Chinese proverb in Chinese during a debate puts him
up there as strange. Speaking Mandarin maybe a good skill, but that kind of thing puts you in the same group as the guy who likes to get attention at the party and shows questionable basic judgment of appropriateness.

Ads should stick to issues and track records in my view. People can call it negative if they want. But we ain't in Kansas anymore and there are big things at stake. The US is probably the biggest ego worshipper, as a culture...just look at the track record. So of course there will be ads reflecting such.
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