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Been hunting that intent link all day have ya? lol
"Competition breeds winners" ............. lmao..........
(unless you bring a knife to a gunfight)
Give it up. Ya got nothing. Just a lot of hot air, and not one link to support this oddly staunch but totally inaccurate position you've decided to take. lol
Keep looking. You found the NYC fire code pretty quickly. Like grandma always used to say, you'll find it in the last place ya look.......... and if you wont talk to me until you find it, I'll totally understand.
Your babble makes no sense whatsoever, or is your post another example to the world of OWS college kiddie common sense and logic?
Produce a link to the NY City, or NY State legislation that prohibits protesting a place of business, AT the place of business without permission.
Otherwise *yawn* .......... I have to go scratch.
Lets put it this way, pay attention college kiddie...
If one demonstrates on the premises of a private place of business the business has the right to ask law enforcement to remove the people who are disrupting their business...
If this was not true the police would not have removed the college kiddies...
(unless of course one believes there is a conspiracy between private businesses and law enforcement).
Since law enforcement removed the college kiddies I guess it's up to you to prove the college kiddies had the right to disrupt the business...
Lets put it this way, pay attention college kiddie...
If one demonstrates on the premises of a private place of business the business has the right to ask law enforcement to remove the people who are disrupting their business...
If this was not true the police would not have removed the college kiddies...
(unless of course one believes there is a conspiracy between private businesses and law enforcement).
Since law enforcement removed the college kiddies I guess it's up to you to prove the college kiddies had the right to disrupt the business...
Produce the link.
Pwadoof duh wink
Sprecken ze link postum?
Comprende?
....or do I need to press 3 for another language not yet recognized by the rest of the world?
.........or is it like an old people thing that when you see cops and cuffs you automatically assume the most obvious thing was the crime? Litigation by observation?
It becomes criminal trespass when you're asked to leave property by either the owner if private, or a government official if public, and do not comply.
Not in Ohio. It's criminal trespass. If you commit a crime while trespassing, then it is elevated to aggravated trespassing. The former is a 4th Degree Misdemeanor and the latter a 1st Degree Misdemeanor.
Have you ever arrested anyone in your life for trespassing? Don't worry, I have.
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...and private property is not necessarily criminal trespass if not open to the public, except when there is an obvious boundary present such as a door if a dwelling/building, or a fence if land, and you went through/over it.
Wrong answer. You aren't even aware that statues vary from State to State.
Your presence on any property public or private, for any reason other than official business is "trespass." Protesting is not "official business."
Even something like "I'm just wanna use the john" is trespass. Note that most businesses wouldn't go through the hassle of calling the police.
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(B) It is no defense to a charge under this section that the land or premises involved was owned, controlled, or in custody of a public agency.
(C) It is no defense to a charge under this section that the offender was authorized to enter or remain on the land or premises involved, when such authorization was secured by deception.
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To be unlawful you must be notified. That is why rural places put up signs and Casinos have their guards tell you to leave. You cannot be unlawful without notification.
No, not true. You can test your theory if you want. I would advise that you don't.
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Wrong. Citibank doesn't post a sign that says "no protesters". Their intent can be anything as long as it's a lawful act. Protesting is a lawful act. There might be some disorderly conduct issues, but that wasn't evident on the video we saw, so again, the police/court needs to review the CB security tape.
CitiBank doesn't have to post a sign that says "no protestors." You are either on the premises to conduct business transactions with the bank, or you are not.
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Unless it's posted, private businesses open to the public are subject to the sames laws on the sidewalk.
Wrong again.
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My local mall posts "no picture taking". So you can't do it. If I did take a picture, they can't confiscate the camera or anything.
Oh, yes, they can. I would confiscate either the film or the chip, and the only thing you could about is whine here on C-Di.
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All they can do is say "we don't allow pictures in here" and I have to stop. If I don't stop, all they can do is ask me to leave. If I don't leave, THEN it becomes criminal trespass.
That isn't how works.
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lmao.......... I'm done with this thread. This flagrant wasting of my personal time, while not illegal, duh huh, certainly has to be a crime in some circles.
You got beat over the head with facts and then threw in the towel. Way to go.
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That woman, however, is clearly outside of the bank. She also clearly has a checkbook and is not causing a disturbance when she is forcefully dragged back inside. I'm finding it hard to believe she deserved to be arrested."
How many details do you need?
I need to know who's check-book: Citibank's or Keybank's or 5th/3rd Bank's. Anyone can wave a checkbook around.
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Produce a link to the NY City, or NY State legislation that prohibits protesting a place of business, AT the place of business without permission.
Otherwise *yawn* .......... I have to go scratch.
Some losers just don't know how to lose graciously.
....or do I need to press 3 for another language not yet recognized by the rest of the world?
.........or is it like an old people thing that when you see cops and cuffs you automatically assume the most obvious thing was the crime? Litigation by observation?
Been hunting that intent link all day have ya? lol
Hunting all day for what? I dont need to hunt the laws, I'm pretty familiar with them.
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"Competition breeds winners" ............. lmao..........
(unless you bring a knife to a gunfight)
Changing the subject wont make you correct.
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Give it up. Ya got nothing. Just a lot of hot air, and not one link to support this oddly staunch but totally inaccurate position you've decided to take. lol
I posted NUMEROUS links quoting NY law. The fact that you cant comprehend them isnt my fault. Blame your parents
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Keep looking. You found the NYC fire code pretty quickly. Like grandma always used to say, you'll find it in the last place ya look.......... and if you wont talk to me until you find it, I'll totally understand.
Produce a link to the NY City, or NY State legislation that prohibits protesting a place of business, AT the place of business without permission.
Otherwise *yawn* .......... I have to go scratch.
YOU posted the links earlier validating its a crime. Again, YOU didnt comprehend the links YOU provided. Thats not OUR fault you dont comprehend the links YOU provide
Have you ever arrested anyone in your life for trespassing? Don't worry, I have.
I've had governmental official arrested for trespassing on my property. Thought they had the authority to come through my property, cleaning out a crick. Sucks that they didnt know the difference between navigatable waters, and non-navigatable.
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