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Old 10-20-2011, 01:49 PM
 
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Got this Email from my brother today;

You may have seen this before, but it is such common sense. If every person who votes held their representatives to this, it would be a sizable contribution to the current soft position.


Subject: Fixing Congress


I have cleaned this e-mail from all other names, sending it to you in hopes you will keep it going and keep it clean. I can’t say this will fix things but I hope you all read it all the way through and see what you think.



The 26th amendment (granting the right to vote for 18 year olds) took only 3 months & 8 days to be ratified! Why? Simple! The people demanded it. That was in 1971...before computers, before e-mail, before cell phones, etc.
Of the 27 amendments to the Constitution, seven (7) took 1 year or less to become the law of the land...all because of public pressure.
I'm asking each addressee to forward this email to a minimum of twenty people on their address list; in turn ask each of those to do likewise. In three days, most people in The United
States of America will have the message.
This is one idea that really should be passed around.

Congressional Reform Act of 2011
1. No Tenure / No Pension. A Congressman collects a salary while in office and receives no pay when they are out of office.
2. Congress (past, present & future) participates in Social Security. All funds in the Congressional retirement fund move to the Social Security system immediately. All future funds flow into the Social Security system, and Congress participates with the American people. It may not be used for any other purpose.
3. Congress can purchase their own retirement plan, just as all Americans do.
4. Congress will no longer vote themselves a pay raise. Congressional pay will rise by the lower of CPI or 3%.
5. Congress loses their current health care system and participates in the same health care system as the American people.
6. Congress must equally abide by all laws they impose on the American people.
7. All contracts with past and present Congressmen are void effective 1/1/12.
The American people did not make this contract with Congressmen. Congressmen made all these contracts for themselves.
Serving in Congress is an honor, not a career. The Founding Fathers envisioned citizen legislators, so ours should serve their term(s), then go home and back to work.

If each person contacts a minimum of twenty people then it will only take three days for most people (in the U.S. ) to receive the message. Maybe it is time.

THIS IS HOW YOU FIX CONGRESS!!!!!
If you agree with the above, pass it on.
If not, just. Please keep it going.





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Old 10-20-2011, 08:28 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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Originally Posted by bluesjuke View Post
Got this Email from my brother today;

You may have seen this before, but it is such common sense. If every person who votes held their representatives to this, it would be a sizable contribution to the current soft position.


Subject: Fixing Congress


I have cleaned this e-mail from all other names, sending it to you in hopes you will keep it going and keep it clean. I can’t say this will fix things but I hope you all read it all the way through and see what you think.



The 26th amendment (granting the right to vote for 18 year olds) took only 3 months & 8 days to be ratified! Why? Simple! The people demanded it. That was in 1971...before computers, before e-mail, before cell phones, etc.
Of the 27 amendments to the Constitution, seven (7) took 1 year or less to become the law of the land...all because of public pressure.
I'm asking each addressee to forward this email to a minimum of twenty people on their address list; in turn ask each of those to do likewise. In three days, most people in The United
States of America will have the message.
This is one idea that really should be passed around.

Congressional Reform Act of 2011
1. No Tenure / No Pension. A Congressman collects a salary while in office and receives no pay when they are out of office.
2. Congress (past, present & future) participates in Social Security. All funds in the Congressional retirement fund move to the Social Security system immediately. All future funds flow into the Social Security system, and Congress participates with the American people. It may not be used for any other purpose.
3. Congress can purchase their own retirement plan, just as all Americans do.
4. Congress will no longer vote themselves a pay raise. Congressional pay will rise by the lower of CPI or 3%.
5. Congress loses their current health care system and participates in the same health care system as the American people.
6. Congress must equally abide by all laws they impose on the American people.
7. All contracts with past and present Congressmen are void effective 1/1/12.
The American people did not make this contract with Congressmen. Congressmen made all these contracts for themselves.
Serving in Congress is an honor, not a career. The Founding Fathers envisioned citizen legislators, so ours should serve their term(s), then go home and back to work.

If each person contacts a minimum of twenty people then it will only take three days for most people (in the U.S. ) to receive the message. Maybe it is time.

THIS IS HOW YOU FIX CONGRESS!!!!!
If you agree with the above, pass it on.
If not, just. Please keep it going.





I have had this one time after time and always told the people who sent it to me that since Congress is not going to propose any of this only a Convention can be called and they have to call that. It is not going to happen and I surely don't want a Constitutional Convention called to do this. Do you know what happened the last time a Congress called a Convention. The attendees decided from the first that they were going to write a whole new document and that is what we have now. I would have to see the people called to the convention to make sure that there weren't enough of them of the progressive bent who may write something we really don't need.

I suggest that you get your hands on a copy of the Constitution of the US and read Article V. That is about amending the Constitution and maybe you would come out understanding what I am saying.
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Old 10-20-2011, 08:35 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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We love the constitution! Those parts "liburals" changed are wrong.

So we will change it to make us happy, even though those parts contradict the original document.

Fundamentalism, it only matters if you pay attention to the parts you like...F the parts you don't.

/snark
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Old 10-21-2011, 12:55 AM
 
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I have had this one time after time and always told the people who sent it to me that since Congress is not going to propose any of this only a Convention can be called and they have to call that. It is not going to happen and I surely don't want a Constitutional Convention called to do this. Do you know what happened the last time a Congress called a Convention. The attendees decided from the first that they were going to write a whole new document and that is what we have now. I would have to see the people called to the convention to make sure that there weren't enough of them of the progressive bent who may write something we really don't need.

I suggest that you get your hands on a copy of the Constitution of the US and read Article V. That is about amending the Constitution and maybe you would come out understanding what I am saying.


No problem understanding that.

The ideas should be the way it is.
That's all.
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