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Old 10-23-2011, 05:17 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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We will never be able to raise enough revenue to cover $4 trillion.
There has to be cuts and no one wants to do that.

We get downgraded then we become more risky and bond interest rates we pay will go up.
Higher interest payments mean we get more in debt. Get more in debt and we get downgraded.
Get downgraded and our interest rate goes up. See where this is leading ?

We need taxes and we need cuts. With election coming next year I doubt we'll see either.
Instead we are seeing new spending bills coming forward.

The people in DC are more worried about elections than they are about the health of this country.
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Old 10-23-2011, 05:20 PM
 
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LOL! The right wing nutcases need to lay off the moonshine, fox news and actually learn some facts instead of spouting delusions. This is from the actual S&P report itself:

"Compared with previous projections, our revised base case scenario now
assumes that the 2001 and 2003 tax cuts, due to expire by the end of 2012,
(Bush tax cuts to the rich)
remain in place. We have changed our assumption on this because the majority of Republicans in Congress continue to resist any measure that would raise revenues"

http://www.standardandpoors.com/serv...ervalue3=UTF-8
Try again.

Per S&P;
Quote:
"We lowered our long-term rating on the U.S. because we believe that the prolonged controversy over raising the statutory debt ceiling and the related fiscal policy debate indicate that further near-term progress containing the growth in public spending, especially on entitlements, or on reaching an agreement on raising revenues is less likely than we previously assumed and will remain a contentious and fitful process," the ratings firm said.
S&P downgrades U.S. credit rating from AAA - USATODAY.com

They did not trust government to reduce spending to manageable levels. There was no assignment of blame to either party.
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Old 10-23-2011, 05:22 PM
 
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What will the adminstration blame it on this time? Last time they said S&P made a math error. Did Merill Lynch forget to "carry the 1" as well?

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Old 10-23-2011, 05:25 PM
 
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We wouldn't be in this spot if the tea party didn't shoot down the Obama/Boehner grand bargain.
Yeh.. that's it.

Not that we have a corrupt fractional reserve system that has no responsibility to it's customers.

Buys both sides of the political structure to insure no oversight of predatory lending, and control the spigot of liquidity.

JP Morgan, Goldman and the other international criminals like the World Bank, and the IMF run the world. NOT OBAMA and BONER>
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Old 10-23-2011, 05:26 PM
 
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U.S. rating likely to be downgraded again: Merrill

(Reuters) - The United States will likely suffer the loss of its triple-A credit rating from another major rating agency by the end of this year due to concerns over the deficit, Bank of America Merrill Lynch forecasts.
The United States should get a credit downgrade with a moron like Obama as POTUS.
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Old 10-23-2011, 05:30 PM
 
Location: somewhere in the woods
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We will never be able to raise enough revenue to cover $4 trillion.
There has to be cuts and no one wants to do that.

We get downgraded then we become more risky and bond interest rates we pay will go up.
Higher interest payments mean we get more in debt. Get more in debt and we get downgraded.
Get downgraded and our interest rate goes up. See where this is leading ?

We need taxes and we need cuts. With election coming next year I doubt we'll see either.
Instead we are seeing new spending bills coming forward.

The people in DC are more worried about elections than they are about the health of this country.

the strange thing I find, is that even I as a normal american can look at the budget and cut 3.2 trillion out of the budget, I dont see how the politicians cant do it.

I know they are looking out for favors, lining their own pockets and the like. but if I can do it, then why dont they?
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Old 10-23-2011, 05:33 PM
 
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The United States should get a credit downgrade with a moron like Obama as POTUS.
OBama couldn't think himself out of a milk toast prison, but he sure isn't the master mind behind our debt and destruction.

Start with the private banking system run by Bernanke.


THere is a great documentary by Bill Still you would do well to watch.


The Secret of Oz (by Mr Bill Still) - YouTube
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Old 10-23-2011, 05:34 PM
 
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the strange thing I find, is that even I as a normal american can look at the budget and cut 3.2 trillion out of the budget, I dont see how the politicians cant do it.

I know they are looking out for favors, lining their own pockets and the like. but if I can do it, then why dont they?
It's more a matter of won't than can't. The majority of our current crop of politicians are only concerned with enriching themselves and empowering government. They couldn't care less about the well being of the nation.
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Old 10-23-2011, 05:35 PM
 
Location: somewhere in the woods
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It's more a matter of won't than can't. The majority of our current crop of politicians are only concerned with enriching themselves and empowering government. They couldn't care less about the well being of the nation.

very true, repped you for the post of the day too.
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Old 10-23-2011, 05:37 PM
 
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very true, repped you for the post of the day too.
Thanks for both the agreement and the rep.
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