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Old 10-25-2011, 10:45 PM
 
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so should women be forced to have babies if they don't want to?
I think the law in question here does not do that.
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Old 10-25-2011, 10:46 PM
 
Location: The Cascade Foothills
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You know, once someone is born and all support is trying to be removed by the "christian" and conservative movements.
Of course not. They want to force women to have a child they are unequipped (mentally, financially, and otherwise) to take care of but they're unwilling to pay for the programs that will help feed, clothe, and house that child.

Once the child is here, it can die in the streets for all they care.

Hypocrites.
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Old 10-25-2011, 10:47 PM
 
Location: Earth
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Im a libertarian, war sucks but if we gotta do it, do it within the law and fight to win!!!

Killing babies aint healthcare...
Then you're simply against women.
Killing = killing. Right, giving yourself a political label doesn't change the hypocrisy or desire to control.

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I am for abortion anything that stops the lazy and stupid parents from raising another anchor on society is all good for me.


But please lets call it what it is KILLING just be honest it is KILLING for sure.
Only lazy and stupid people have abortions?
Really?
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Old 10-25-2011, 10:48 PM
 
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I think the law in question here does not do that.
anti choice people want abortion outlawed. no abortion for a woman who wants one means she will be forced to carry a pregnancy to term. no woman should be forced to remain pregnant if she doesn't want to be
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Old 10-25-2011, 10:49 PM
 
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anti choice people want abortion outlawed. no abortion for a woman who wants one means she will be forced to carry a pregnancy to term. no woman should be forced to remain pregnant if she doesn't want to be
In this case, they only requirement was to look at what you were about to do.
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Old 10-25-2011, 10:52 PM
 
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In this case, they only requirement was to look at what you were about to do.
women are not stupid we know what abortion is, there is no need to look at an ultra sound
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Old 10-25-2011, 10:52 PM
 
Location: NC
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In my opinion while the anti-choice crowd obfuscates it being anti-choice comes down to holding at least one of 2 basic assumptions (in bold).

First.

Women are property. This is the kind of anti-choicer who insists on paternal consent to abortion even in cases of rape.

Second, and this is the one at play here.

Women are intellectually feeble. The only reason you would want to force a woman to see an ultrasound is because you don't think she is capable of deciding which information she needs to make a decision regarding her pregnancy on her own.
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Old 10-25-2011, 10:53 PM
 
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women are not stupid we know what abortion is, there is no need to look at an ultra sound
What could it hurt?

Afraid she'd change her mind?

Would that be a bad thing?
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Old 10-25-2011, 10:53 PM
 
Location: South Dakota
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anti choice people want abortion outlawed. no abortion for a woman who wants one means she will be forced to carry a pregnancy to term. no woman should be forced to remain pregnant if she doesn't want to be
Dont expect people that don't want to be involved have anything to do with it through taxes or insurance...
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Old 10-25-2011, 10:58 PM
 
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What could it hurt?

Afraid she'd change her mind?

Would that be a bad thing?
do you want to be second guessed on your decisions? women are not stupid we know what abortion is. viewing an ultra sound is a ploy to try to make women feel guilty about their choice. it is also an extra cost and unnecessary. you in favor of added health care cost for a test that is completely unnecessary?
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