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Where is Jerry Sandusky's wife in all this? She had to have know something was going on as wives usually do. What about his foster children/biological children? I hate to think of the things he did to his children.
I'm guessing that she probably did, but didn't know what to do about it...and she's apparently part of a growing list of people who didn't know what to do about it. Even when local prosecutors had damning evidence against Sandusky in the form of surveillance, they didn't push that case forward in 1998. If they did that, then McQueary never would have seen that incident in the shower. But he did, and then this whole scandalous cycle repeated itself in full, with multiple victims before it was finally stopped.
People - myself included - are understandably outraged and wondering how this could have continued for so long. How could people not do anything? I think that people have a hard time doing the right thing in this situation. We all know what should have been done. I think the people involved have known all along what they should have done. But for whatever reason, they just couldn't bring themselves to take this scandal head on.
I don't think that they're bad people. I don't think they did it to protect one of their own. I don't think they did it necessarily to protect their beloved football program and it's prestige, although that probably was factored. I think the main reason is that they were trying to protect themselves. They had no idea what they would be getting into if they pushed it forward. They were scared. That doesn't excuse them, but it perhaps makes it a little easier to understand the gross lapses in judgment by people who were trusted and paid to make the toughest decisions.
People will surely strongly disagree with the above, but if that's not true, then why does it happen like this in other situations? There was a similar episode that occurred with a trainer for the Boston Red Sox, who molested numerous young African American boys in the 1970s. Just like now, people suspected and knew something was up, but nobody ever went to the mat to stop it. And stepping away from the issue of sex crimes, there are violent attacks that are witnessed and never reported. There are times when people see spouses cheating and don't report, or they're reported and then not believed by the offended spouse. I think what it gets down to is, humans don't like dealing with messes. And I guess that too many people need something that compels their action, which is what the law is for.
I'm guessing that she probably did, but didn't know what to do about it...and she's apparently part of a growing list of people who didn't know what to do about it. Even when local prosecutors had damning evidence against Sandusky in the form of surveillance, they didn't push that case forward in 1998. If they did that, then McQueary never would have seen that incident in the shower. But he did, and then this whole scandalous cycle repeated itself in full, with multiple victims before it was finally stopped.
People - myself included - are understandably outraged and wondering how this could have continued for so long. How could people not do anything? I think that people have a hard time doing the right thing in this situation. We all know what should have been done. I think the people involved have known all along what they should have done. But for whatever reason, they just couldn't bring themselves to take this scandal head on.
I don't think that they're bad people. I don't think they did it to protect one of their own. I don't think they did it necessarily to protect their beloved football program and it's prestige, although that probably was factored. I think the main reason is that they were trying to protect themselves. They had no idea what they would be getting into if they pushed it forward. They were scared. That doesn't excuse them, but it perhaps makes it a little easier to understand the gross lapses in judgment by people who were trusted and paid to make the toughest decisions.
People will surely strongly disagree with the above, but if that's not true, then why does it happen like this in other situations? There was a similar episode that occurred with a trainer for the Boston Red Sox, who molested numerous young African American boys in the 1970s. Just like now, people suspected and knew something was up, but nobody ever went to the mat to stop it. And stepping away from the issue of sex crimes, there are violent attacks that are witnessed and never reported. There are times when people see spouses cheating and don't report, or they're reported and then not believed by the offended spouse. I think what it gets down to is, humans don't like dealing with messes. And I guess that too many people need something that compels their action, which is what the law is for.
Its a sensitive issue for sure and not one you can be wrong about, I don't blame the asst coach for not running in and fighting Sandusky back in '02, it had to be a surreal moment to see someone you've looked up to for so long doing something so horrible like that. Its easy to say behind a keyboard what people would of done but unless you're in that moment, no one can say for sure. That said, he should of called the cops after he told Paterno, Paterno then should of called the cops himself. I can't believe that the past incidents in '98 were only known by Sandusky and the campus police, more people had to know plus the retirement in '99 without a whisper, Sandusky was one of the most sought after defensive coaches in college football at the time, something was up then. I think what we find out months from now will be even more damning for Penn State and Paterno. Another thing is well maybe people from the South only really know is College football players have an insane loyalty to their university, high school football, then college football is huge in the south, in the northeast not so much. Also football players have a bond with their teamates and coaches whether in high school or college that is usually unbreakable. Playing or being involved in football brings out a loyalty in a person that can't be matched in any other sport or real life activity like a job, and its part of the reason things like this go on for years without anything being reported, I'm not saying its right, but it is what it is.
Once we get more information and further into the investigation I think its going to be a nightmare for everyone from Paterno to the Asst coach and further down the line. For those that don't know, Paterno is Penn St heck he was aked to retire back in 03 or 04 by the president of the university and he told him to pi$$ off, btw those that asked him to leave back then just got fired along with Paterno. Now it make you wonder what that conversation was really like when they asked Paterno to leave.
Its a sad story because its not really about Paterno its about the victims who were raped by Sandusky, if Penn St beats Nebraska today the football team may deliver a game ball to Paterno's house, while the victims of these heinous acts will wonder who's gonna fight for them.
Lovely: Ex-player offers help to Sandusky | The Times Leader, Wilkes-Barre, Scranton PA - News (http://www.timesleader.com/news/Ex-player_offers__help_to_Sandusky_11-12-2011.html - broken link)
Its a sensitive issue for sure and not one you can be wrong about, I don't blame the asst coach for not running in and fighting Sandusky back in '02, it had to be a surreal moment to see someone you've looked up to for so long doing something so horrible like that. Its easy to say behind a keyboard what people would of done but unless you're in that moment, no one can say for sure.
I think that's the reality here. There are a lot of people who are understandably outraged, and they want answers. I'm one of them. But talking about what you'd do on the internet and actually being there and having to confront it in real life, in real time, is another matter entirely. People frequently make bad decisions in real time.
As you correctly point out, though...
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That said, he should of called the cops after he told Paterno, Paterno then should of called the cops himself.
I agree. I think this is the part where people have to be criticized here. They had time to think about it. They had time to make up for the bad decision to flee in a moment of panic. They had time to notify the police. I may be wrong, but even though no charges were filed, I'm guessing someone had to know that there were growing questions about Sandusky's behavior even before the 2002 incident. But then to avoid the situation once one of their staff actually witnessed it...that's just hard to explain. I know it couldn't have been an easy thing to confront, and I know they were afraid to deal with what was going to be an ugly scandal and all of the fallout. But they didn't have a choice, ethically.
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I can't believe that the past incidents in '98 were only known by Sandusky and the campus police, more people had to know plus the retirement in '99 without a whisper, Sandusky was one of the most sought after defensive coaches in college football at the time, something was up then.
Yeah, I think there had to be some suspicions. Maybe in time, we'll find out that's not the case, but it's a matter of who knew what, and when.
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Its a sad story because its not really about Paterno its about the victims who were raped by Sandusky, if Penn St beats Nebraska today the football team may deliver a game ball to Paterno's house, while the victims of these heinous acts will wonder who's gonna fight for them.
I think the most important thing right now, even more important than dealing with Paterno and Penn St officials, is getting those victims help. Some of them are adults now. I can't imagine what they must be feeling right now. They have to carry around those scars and deal with it alone, while they watch all of the publicity finally hit the airwaves years later. Recovery is elusive, I would imagine.
Penn State needs to pay for their lifetime earnings, and they need to pay for psychological counseling. They owe them that much -- minimum. They can't just stop at replacing staff members. There is so much more that needs to be done. They have to repair damaged lives.
Lovely: Ex-player offers help to Sandusky | The Times Leader, Wilkes-Barre, Scranton PA - News (http://www.timesleader.com/news/Ex-player_offers__help_to_Sandusky_11-12-2011.html - broken link)
Raising $ to defend a child rapist? What's wrong with this man..and people like him? Why doesn't he raise $ for the victims?!
Lovely: Ex-player offers help to Sandusky | The Times Leader, Wilkes-Barre, Scranton PA - News (http://www.timesleader.com/news/Ex-player_offers__help_to_Sandusky_11-12-2011.html - broken link)
Uh.........a straight man giving blowjobs............LOL.
Yes, straight men do it all the time for drug money and in prison. Even in pornos.
Like I said, study up on human sexuality.
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