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It is simply a descriptor, there is no reason to take offense to the term homosexual pedophilia. Pedophiles are typically attracted to either same sex children or children of the opposite sex, rarely both. Nobody (at least not me) is claiming that homosexuals are more likely to abuse or find themselves attracted to children of the same sex, just as heterosexuals are no more likely to be attracted to children of the opposite sex. The terminology simply describes the state of attraction to either children of the same sex or children of the opposite sex. Homosexual pedophilia = being sexually attracted to children of the same sex. Heterosexual pedophilia = being sexually attracted to children of the opposite sex.
Regarding their sexual self identity, this is from your linked article: So you are patently false in stating that most pedophiles are heterosexuals since many don't even have an adult sexual orientation.
I didn't state what you claim I did at all. I have said that most child molestors or pedophiles who have an adult sexual orientation, are heterosexuals even when they sexually abuse boys.
Many uninformed people assume that a man who sexually abuses boys must have a homosexual sexual orientation (gay) -when often, they have an adult sexual orientation that is heterosexual. That's why using the term 'homosexual pedophile' can be misleading.
he's gay. not that it really matters but for the sake of quoting this post...the man is gay.
any male that inserts, no, that has the thought of inserting his penis into another male's rectum, and that actually makes said thoughts a reality, is a homosexual.
this so called heterosexual male is turned on by the thought of having sex with other males. he touched other males' thighs, wrestled with sexual intent, was caught in the act of anal intercourse with a male, etc. etc.
he's a child molester.
he's a monster.
and he's gay. now, again, his sexual orientation doesn't matter to me at all but its baffling to sit here and read posts where ppl call this man a heterosexual.
HOW.
had anal sex with males? check.
performed oral sex on males? check.
had males perform oral sex on him? check.
touched males in a sexual manner? check.
etc. etc.
what part of the above sounds heterosexual?
i'm with the other poster who says that he probably identifies himself as a heterosexual due to societal norms. much like so called "down low" "brothers."
No. He's not gay. He is a child molestor. And yes, he is a monster.
You are sadly uninformed. I provided links to the studies. It's your choice whether or not inform yourself.
I didn't state what you claim I did at all. I have said that most child molestors or pedophiles who have an adult sexual orientation, are heterosexuals even when they sexually abuse boys.
Many uninformed people assume that a man who sexually abuses boys must have a homosexual sexual orientation (gay) -when often, they have an adult sexual orientation that is heterosexual. That's why using the term 'homosexual pedophile' can be misleading.
Nice disclaimer, but from your own article, most pedophiles don't have an adult sexual orientation whatsoever. They don't "often have an adult sexual orientation that is heterosexual" because most don't have an adult sexual orientation, period. Stop trying to split hairs. There is absolutely nothing wrong with calling the majority of pedos homosexual pedophiles or heterosexual pedophiles. It's simply a descriptive term to identify the sex of their victim in relation to their own sex. Nothing more, nothing less. What uninformed people assume is not what we're discussing and not any of my concern.
i hope they lock everybody involved in this cover up. and there will be many ppl involved, thats for sure.
this guy should get LIFE without the possibility of parole IMO. sick ****. IMO the school, the police...probably others are all involved in this cover up. that other guy probably got murdered.
i say this as a lefty liberal and a catholic (go figure!).
To all the posters who are insisting Sandusky is gay, what is your point in asserting this anyway? What difference does it make? Is it worse that he was assaulting 10 year old boys rather than 10 year old girls? He was assaulting children, and that's really all that matters.
Nice disclaimer, but from your own article, most pedophiles don't have an adult sexual orientation whatsoever. They don't "often have an adult sexual orientation that is heterosexual" because most don't have an adult sexual orientation, period. Stop trying to split hairs. There is absolutely nothing wrong with calling the majority of pedos homosexual pedophiles or heterosexual pedophiles. It's simply a descriptive term to identify the sex of their victim in relation to their own sex. Nothing more, nothing less. What uninformed people assume is not what we're discussing and not any of my concern.
Haha. It's not simply a descriptive term to identity the sex of the victim in relation to their own sex as you claim. It's a calculated attack by the anti-gay religious right against gay people to try and brand homosexuals as deviant child molesters. Despite the fact that far and away the most common form of child sexual abuse is adult man abusing girl, you very, very, very rarely ever see or hear the term "heterosexual pedophile." The only time you ever see "****sexual" placed in front of the word pedophile is when a man molests a boy.
As you point out, many pedophiles don't have an adult sexual orientation (and if they do it's sometimes discordant with the sex of children they molests). Pedophiles are attracted to children - that's what a pedophile is (they very often don't care what the sex of the child is - their victims are chosen out of accessibility). It has nothing to do with homosexuality or heterosexual, so why would you use those terms when discussing it (other than to smear and defame gay people of course)?
Nice disclaimer, but from your own article, most pedophiles don't have an adult sexual orientation whatsoever. They don't "often have an adult sexual orientation that is heterosexual" because most don't have an adult sexual orientation, period. Stop trying to split hairs. There is absolutely nothing wrong with calling the majority of pedos homosexual pedophiles or heterosexual pedophiles. It's simply a descriptive term to identify the sex of their victim in relation to their own sex. Nothing more, nothing less. What uninformed people assume is not what we're discussing and not any of my concern.
You claimed I stated something that I didn't state at all.
Do you not understand the difference between regressed pedophiles and fixated pedophiles?
It's fixated pedophiles who do not have an adult sexual orientation. Regressed pedophiles do. And regressed pedophiles most often have a heterosexual orientation even when the victims are boys - according to all the research over the past 60 years.
There are far more regressed pedophiles and child molestors than fixated pedophiles, although the fixated pedophiles usually have a lot more victims.
No. He's not gay. He is a child molestor. And yes, he is a monster.
You are sadly uninformed. I provided links to the studies. It's your choice whether or not inform yourself.
It seems this thread won't stay on the actual topic, so let me ask what you think of this language from Mayo Clinic Proceedings ---
"Pedophiles are usually attracted to a particular age range and/or sex of child. Research categorizes male pedophiles by whether they are attracted to only male children (homosexual pedophilia), female children (heterosexual pedophilia), or children from both sexes (bisexual pedophilia).3,6,10,29 The percentage of homosexual pedophiles ranges from 9% to 40%, which is approximately 4 to 20 times higher than the rate of adult men attracted to other adult men (using a prevalence rate of adult homosexuality of 2%-4%).5,7,10,19,29,30 This finding does not imply that homosexuals are more likely to molest children, just that a larger percentage of pedophiles are homosexual or bisexual in orientation to children.19 "
Haha. It's not simply a descriptive term to identity the sex of the victim in relation to their own sex.
Yes it is and to say otherwise is disingenuous. What connotations people derive from the term is their own choice.
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It's a calculated attack by the anti-gay religious right against gay people to try and brand homosexuals as deviant child molesters. Despite that far and away the most common form of child sexual abuse is adult man abusing girl, you very, very, very rarely ever see or hear the term "heterosexual pedophile". They only time you ever see "****sexual" placed in front of the word pedophile is when a man molests a boy.
BS. I am not anti-gay nor religious right and yet I feel the term is an accurate and appropriate descriptor of behavior and classification. The fact that people use "homosexual" in reference to pedophiles who abuse children of the same sex more prevalently than "heterosexual" is simply due to the fact that homosexual pedophilia is more aberrant, as you suggest. By a factor of 2-1, the majority of pedophiles are heterosexual pedos by nature. There isn't as much of a need to identify the obvious, most likely choice. If you're in a room filled with brown eyed tennis players, do you feel the need to describe him/her as a brown eyed tennis player? No, because the majority of them are brown eyed. You, and people like you, enjoy assigning malintent to a descriptive term when it isn't always appropriate to do so. I don't use the term to disparage homosexuals and have nothing against gays.
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Originally Posted by hammertime33
As you point out, most pedophiles don't have an adult sexual orientation (and if they do it's sometimes discordant with the sex of children they molests). Pedophiles are attracted to children - that's what a pedophile is. It has nothing to do with homosexuality or heterosexual, so why would you use those terms when discussing it (other than to smear and defame gay people of course).
You're right, it doesn't have anything to do with what we traditionally think of homosexuality since we aren't discussing adult sexual relations. Homosexual pedophilia has as much to do with homosexuality as heterosexual pedophilia has to do with heterosexuality.
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