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Old 11-12-2011, 07:41 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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Ahmadinejad: Iran won't retreat from nuclear path *| ajc.com (http://www.ajc.com/news/nation-world/ahmadinejad-iran-wont-retreat-1220880.html - broken link)

Israeli defense minister warns Iran military strike is possible, downplays retaliation fallout - The Washington Post (http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/middle-east/israeli-defense-minister-doesnt-rule-out-military-strike-against-irans-nuclear-program/2011/11/08/gIQA0iGhzM_story.html - broken link)

Israeli defense minister warns Iran military strike is possible, downplays retaliation fallout

By Associated Press, Published: November 8

JERUSALEM — Israel’s defense minister warned on Tuesday of a possible Israeli military strike against Iran’s nuclear program and rejected suggestions the Jewish state would be devastated by an Iranian counterattack.
Ehud Barak spoke a day before the United Nations’ nuclear agency was expected to release a critical report on the Iranian program. The report is expected to implicate Iran in bomb building and erase doubts about the nature of the program, which Iran says is designed to produce energy, not weapons.

Barak told Israel Radio he didn’t expect the International Atomic Energy Agency report to persuade Russia and China to impose what he called “lethal” sanctions on Iran to pressure Tehran to dismantle its nuclear installations.
“As long as no such sanctions have been imposed and proven effective, we continue to recommend to our friends in the world and to ourselves, not to take any option off the table,” he said. He stressed that no decision to attack has been made.
The “all options on the table” phrase is often used by Israeli politicians to mean a military assault.
It has been about 100 hours since you started this thread and Obama has been able to hold Israel back so far. Oh yes he is trying to hold them back.
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Old 11-12-2011, 07:57 PM
 
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It has been about 100 hours since you started this thread and Obama has been able to hold Israel back so far. Oh yes he is trying to hold them back.
That's becasue Israel is about to get nuked by Russia.
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Old 11-12-2011, 07:59 PM
 
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That's becasue Israel is about to get nuked by Russia.
In other words Russia is willing to take the way Obama has treated Israel as an indication that we won't attempt to protect our best ally in the area. Yep, that may well be what is going on.
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Old 11-12-2011, 08:01 PM
 
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nm_156. Sorry dude, but you are 100 percent CLUELESS!!!!!
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Old 11-12-2011, 08:09 PM
 
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In other words Russia is willing to take the way Obama has treated Israel as an indication that we won't attempt to protect our best ally in the area. Yep, that may well be what is going on.
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nm_156. Sorry dude, but you are 100 percent CLUELESS!!!!!
Israel is no ally. They've been ordering the U.S. around since 1948.
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Old 11-12-2011, 08:14 PM
 
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Somewhat, but we NEED them as an ally in the Middle East. Also, if you are Christian, than you would realize as well that we NEED to be their friends! You will see for sure very soon that Iran is up to no good.
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Old 11-12-2011, 08:16 PM
 
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Somewhat, but we NEED them as an ally in the Middle East. Also, if you are Christian, than you would realize as well that we NEED to be their friends! You will see for sure very soon that Iran is up to no good.
Israel is not Christian.
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Old 11-12-2011, 08:17 PM
 
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That's becasue Israel is about to get nuked by Russia.
Let's see, what's in it for Russia:

*Russia nukes Israel ane becomes an international pariah.
*Israel, going down, does as nations with nuclear weapons do, and lashes out in its death throes. Not surprisingly, Russia gets a few cans of instant sunshine thrown its way.
*Markets go ballistic and oil prices skyrocket beyond all imagination as the clouds of fallout drift east, over the various fields of the Gulf area as well as over Iran, ironically. While Russia benefits from high oil prices, that benefit is more than offset by the ensuing global economic debacle that will make what we're in now look like party-time, to say nothing of the cost of a few of its cities disappearing in mushroom clouds.
*Every nuclear and conventional limitation and disarmament agreement which Russia has sought and negotiated and implemented over the years goes out the window as a new arms race ensues.

Of course, all of this would be spelled out in excruciating detail to the Russian leadership by various advisors long before any nuclear weapon was launch.

And in your universe, the Russian leadership says, "OK, sounds like a good plan, bring me the cheget!" (what the Russians call the nuclear football) ?



You're confusing the way you want the Russians to behave with the way states with geopolitical interests actually behave. I'm afraid your nuclear fantasies are going to remain just that, because the Russian leadership won't behave in the inanely delusional way you obviously want them to behave.
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Old 11-12-2011, 08:21 PM
 
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Let's see, what's in it for Russia:

*Russia nukes Israel ane becomes an international pariah.
*Israel, going down, does as nations with nuclear weapons do, and lashes out in its death throes. Not surprisingly, Russia gets a few cans of instant sunshine thrown its way.
*Markets go ballistic and oil prices skyrocket beyond all imagination as the clouds of fallout drift east, over the various fields of the Gulf area as well as over Iran, ironically. While Russia benefits from high oil prices, that benefit is more than offset by the ensuing global economic debacle that will make what we're in now look like party-time, to say nothing of the cost of a few of its cities disappearing in mushroom clouds.
*Every nuclear and conventional limitation and disarmament agreement which Russia has sought and negotiated and implemented over the years goes out the window as a new arms race ensues.

Of course, all of this would be spelled out in excruciating detail to the Russian leadership by various advisors long before any nuclear weapon was launch.

And in your universe, the Russian leadership says, "OK, sounds like a good plan, bring me the cheget!" (what the Russians call the nuclear football) ?



You're confusing the way you want the Russians to behave with the way states with geopolitical interests actually behave. I'm afraid your nuclear fantasies are going to remain just that, because the Russian leadership won't behave in the inanely delusional way you obviously want them to behave.
Flush out your head gear. Russia is looking for payback from the murder of the Royal family in 1918.
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Old 11-12-2011, 08:42 PM
 
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Never said Israel was Christian. But the Majority of Americans are.
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