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Old 11-09-2011, 09:38 AM
 
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im suggesting that the Chinese and Russians hate the United States
yeah , i don't think that is reality, especially with regards to the Chinese.
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Old 11-09-2011, 09:39 AM
 
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i don't agree with your presumption that Russia and China are motivated to bring the US to its knees.

China is not going to go to war with its biggest trade partner, and Russia is a fairweather friend to Iran. Neither of these countries want to upset other oil-producing arab states, who aren't too crazy about Iran.





are you suggesting that the Chinese and the Russians hate Israel?
We aren't going to be it's biggest trade partner by next yr. Our economy is going to implode even further. Social unrest in our country will be widespread this summer.

This holiday shopping season is going to show the world that we lost our mojo.

We are headed for a perfect storm of collapse and insignificance in purchasing power.

Russia hates Israel. China loves the quest of regaining it's empire.
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Old 11-09-2011, 09:41 AM
 
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Russia and China are Allies, they both want to bring the US to it's knees.
Russia and China have a great many mutual interest but calling them allies particularly military allies, allies that would actual go to war for a foreign power is more than a stretch even for the most paranoid post cold-warrior.
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Old 11-09-2011, 09:43 AM
 
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Turkey? It is a member of NATO. I highly doubt Russia and China would join a shooting war to support Iran, they have too many economic interests with the West.
Erdogan says there is no such thing as a secular Muslim... He is changing the countries stance at break neck speed.

Islam Watch - "Turkey: EU?s Trojan Horse?" by Geoff Dickson
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Old 11-09-2011, 09:48 AM
 
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Russia and China have a great many mutual interest but calling them allies particularly military allies, allies that would actual go to war for a foreign power is more than a stretch even for the most paranoid post cold-warrior.
Since early 2000's they have increased military games, tech exchanges, oil deals.
Search their activities and then see if you still believe the way you do.
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Old 11-09-2011, 09:52 AM
 
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Russia and China have a great many mutual interest but calling them allies particularly military allies, allies that would actual go to war for a foreign power is more than a stretch even for the most paranoid post cold-warrior.
Not so sure about that. as stated before the US is loosing economic power, and Russia isn't the biggest fan of the US. this means China might make an alliance with Russia and try to collect on debt with the fight between Iran and Israel as an excuse
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