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Old 11-15-2011, 09:20 AM
 
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There will be a court hearing at 11AM

OWS protesters are now gathering in Tribeca near the Holland Tunnel.
Good let them walk through to Jersey..losers
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Old 11-15-2011, 09:21 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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It's pseudo-private. The park was created via an agreement with New York City. The owners agreed to build and maintain a park open to public use and subject to New York Parks oversight in exchange for building code exemptions on nearby properties. So while technically the land is privately owned, the private owners have a contract with the city to run and maintain a public park.
it is still a PRIVATELY OWNED park

privately owned by Brookfield Properties. The park, formerly called Liberty Plaza Park, was created in 1968 by United States Steel in return for a height bonus for its adjacent headquarters at the time of its construction. That building is now known as One Liberty Plaza. The park's northwest corner is across the street from Four World Trade Center. The park was heavily damaged in the September 11 attacks and subsequent recovery efforts of 2001. The plaza was later used as the site of several events commemorating the anniversary of the attacks. After renovations in 2006, the park was renamed by its current owners, Brookfield Office Properties, after company chairman John Zuccotti.


it is in fact PRIVATELY OWNED

it is unconstitutional for a court to order the occupying of PRIVATE land
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Old 11-15-2011, 09:22 AM
 
Location: New Jersey
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You can't just up and live in a park

How would you like it if I just set up a tent in your front yard and camped out there for 4 months?

The park is city property. Just like your home is private property. The city has the right to throw people out. That's the law.
Perhaps you should read the entire thread before responding.
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Old 11-15-2011, 09:24 AM
 
Location: New Jersey
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A Supreme Court Judge has ordered the city to allow protesters back into the pack, but there are conflicting reports. Crappy CNN says in their text news story that the judge allowed the protesters to return with tents, but their video says the judge refused to let them bring tents back in. At least one other outlet says the judge allowed the tents. I'd like to the see the order and rationale.
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Old 11-15-2011, 09:28 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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This is a sad day in America.

I do not think they deserved to have their belongings trashed.

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if they had not acted like animals, then they wouldnt be treated like animals

the animals defecate in a park...kick them out

these protestors are their own worst enemy
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Old 11-15-2011, 09:29 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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A Supreme Court Judge has ordered the city to allow protesters back into the pack, but there are conflicting reports. Crappy CNN says in their text news story that the judge allowed the protesters to return with tents, but their video says the judge refused to let them bring tents back in. At least one other outlet says the judge allowed the tents. I'd like to the see the order and rationale.
it is unconstitutional for a judge to court order them to allow them to a PRIVATELY OWNED PARK
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Old 11-15-2011, 09:34 AM
 
Location: Too far from home.
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Talking about the order live right now. Police are refusing to honor it.

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Old 11-15-2011, 09:35 AM
 
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it is unconstitutional for a judge to court order them to allow them to a PRIVATELY OWNED PARK
When the private owners have freely conceded their rights (some of them in this case) over the park to the city (the public) via a contract with the city, then yes, a judge certainly can. When the owners have agreed to operate their park as a public park, a judge can - is bound by the contract - to treat it as a public park.
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Old 11-15-2011, 09:46 AM
 
Location: Hoboken
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When the private owners have freely conceded their rights (some of them in this case) over the park to the city (the public) via a contract with the city, then yes, a judge certainly can. When the owners have agreed to operate their park as a public park, a judge can - is bound by the contract - to treat it as a public park.

Which public park in Manhattan can I pitch a tent?
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Old 11-15-2011, 09:48 AM
 
Location: Northern CA
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Thursdays plan includes shutting down the bridges and subway. Gives new meaning to rent-a-mob.
Thursday November 17th National Day of Action #N17 #OWS | Take The Square


Soros center ties to Thursday's scheduled chaos

Official resources for Thursday's event provided in the Occupy site include several manuals from the Ruckus Society, which trains radical activists in "direct action" techniques. Ruckus helped to spark the 1999 World Trade Organization protests in Seattle that turned violent.

The Ruckus manuals provided at the Occupy site are titled "Blockading for Beginners," "Anonymous Riot Guide," "50 Crucial Points for Nonviolent Struggle," "Define White Supremacy," "Imperialism the 2-Faced Monster," "Uncle Sam the Pusher Man" and the Communist Party-connected National Lawyers Guild's "Legal Observer Manual."

Ruckus is also listed as a "friend and partner" of Thursday's scheduled Occupy Days of Action.

Ruckus is funded by the Tides Center, which has been involved in Occupy since the movement's onset.

Read more: Massive chaos, gridlock to be unleashed on NYC Massive chaos, gridlock to be unleashed on NYC
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