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Old 12-03-2011, 06:55 PM
 
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For example, Nobel prize winning economist Joe Stiglitz says that the $3-5 trillion spent on the Iraq war alone has been very bad for the American economy. The endless wars have also been a main component of America’s soaring debt:

And huge debts exert a very real drag on the economy.

we wouldn’t have launched the war against Iraq – or the endless panoply of wars throughout the Middle East and North America – if 9/11 had actually been in investigated.

If there had been a real 9/11 investigation, the Bush administration’s extreme negligence would have come to light. And Americans would have learned that terrorism can largely be prevented if the military and intelligence officers are simply allowed to do their job.

As just one example, Dick Cheney was in charge of all counter-terrorism exercises, activities and responses on 9/11.

The genius Mr. Cheney apparently scheduled 5 war games for the morning of 9/11. Specifically, on the very morning of September 11th, five war games and terror drills were being conducted by several U.S. defense agencies, purportedly including one “live fly” exercise using real planes.

Then-Acting Head of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Air Force General Richard B. Myers, admitted to 4 of the war games in congressional testimony.

False radar blips to be inserted onto air traffic controllers’ screens as part of the war game exercises, which may have confused the heck out of them (see this December 9, 2001 Toronto Star article; pay-per-view; reprinted here). Way to let that one slip through, Mr. in-charge-of-all-war-games.

The military – under the Vice President’s command that day – didn’t scramble enough fighter jets, and then scrambled jets far over the Atlantic Ocean, in what Senator Mark Dayton called:
The most gross incompetence and dereliction of responsibility and negligence that I’ve ever, under those extreme circumstances, witnessed in the public sector.
And the knucklehead
personally watched flight 77 for many miles, but – according to Secretary of Transportation Norm Minetta – stopped it from being shot down before it hit the Pentagon.

Americans would have learned through any real 9/11 investigation that Cheney’s negligence and mucking around in what should have been the generals’ jobs was partly responsible for allowing 9/11 to happen.

In other words, a real 9/11 investigation would have shown Americans that 9/11 should of, could of, and would have been stopped – and that America can protect itself against future terrorist attacks – simply by playing goalie well in our country.

The Failure to Investigate 9/11 Has Bankrupted America - BlackListedNews.com
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Old 12-03-2011, 06:57 PM
 
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Oh wow. What a genius. You have to be a nobel prize winning economist to figure that out?
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Old 12-03-2011, 07:07 PM
 
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It think the biggest failure of the last 10 years, was Bush's decision to invade Iraq AND to cut taxes. I mean how is that fiscally responsible. If the citizens feel a war is necessary, they should be able to support it with war bonds or some such effort. To cut taxes as you launch a war of choice is unbelievable.
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Old 12-03-2011, 07:09 PM
 
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Yet, on the next thread, you'll be complaining of prices...

70% of what you see in the grocery stores in America is made of, or brought to you, by oil and you question your political leaders wherewithal i n regards to the American public.
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Old 12-03-2011, 07:12 PM
 
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It think the biggest failure of the last 10 years, was Bush's decision to invade Iraq AND to cut taxes. I mean how is that fiscally responsible. If the citizens feel a war is necessary, they should be able to support it with war bonds or some such effort. To cut taxes as you launch a war of choice is unbelievable.
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Old 12-03-2011, 07:15 PM
 
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Oh wow. What a genius. You have to be a nobel prize winning economist to figure that out?
My favorite was Paul Wolfowitz who said that the war was not going to be that expensive in Iraq and that Iraq would pay for their own reconstruction. 728 billion dollars later...

Wolfowitz's math was so good bush put him in charge of the World Bank, which he had to resign from because of malfeasance. Now he is at the NeoCon brain trust AEI.
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Old 12-03-2011, 07:19 PM
 
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My favorite was Paul Wolfowitz who said that the war was not going to be that expensive in Iraq and that Iraq would pay for their own reconstruction. 728 billion dollars later...

Wolfowitz's math was so good bush put him in charge of the World Bank, which he had to resign from because of malfeasance. Now he is at the NeoCon brain trust AEI.
Oh yeah, I had forgotten about that quote and that guy. Another of Cheney's chronies.

I cannot believe that after these crooks the conservatives can say a peep about Obama. I mean really, the Bush Administration was just a cruel joke.
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Old 12-03-2011, 07:20 PM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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The Bush administration increased defense spending by 70%, the Obama administration has increased it on top of that. Almost all increases in military spending, world wide, was contributed by the United States alone.

Sensible Defense Cuts: How to Save $400 Billion Through 2015

Hello Captain Obvious!!! Doesn't take an economist to see this was a bad idea. This while LOWERING taxes, the first time we had EVER done that in our history during a time of war!!!!

And we wonder why the debt went up?!?!?!
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Old 12-03-2011, 07:20 PM
 
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The war has been a goldmine for war contractors. If they're happy, we should all be happy.
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Old 12-03-2011, 07:22 PM
 
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Oh wow. What a genius. You have to be a nobel prize winning economist to figure that out?
Maybe so. Americans sure don't give a care how much the war costs. You don't see any Americans complaining about the cost of the war, do you?
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