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Old 12-02-2011, 04:20 AM
 
Location: Mississippi
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A black U.S. college student who drew complaints for displaying a Confederate flag in his dorm room window said he sees the banner as a symbol of pride and not racism.

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Old 12-02-2011, 04:35 AM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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If there were real polls in 1861, most southern Americans would say they didn't care about slavery one way or the other.

In the words of many "I'm fighting because those damned yankees are down here trying to tell us what to do".

Slavery was bad, it was wrong, period, end of discussion. HOWEVER, it was legal under United States law, and the federal government was going to seize the slaves from those that had purchased them legally, with no recompense.

It would be like you buying a herd of cows, and then the federal government coming to your farm and forcing you to let them go out the gate, and not giving you any money for them.

The federal government could have bought every slave in the country, and it likely would have prevented the war. But northern business interests didn't want that, they saw the war as a way to make money, and when the north would likely win, they could seize the assests of those in the south without any money.

AKA carpet baggers

History is much more complex then the "The north fought to free the slaves, and they were right" simply isn't nearly the whole truth.

And this young man is simply stating what he believes, and it should be his first amendment right to display what he wants.
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Old 12-02-2011, 04:42 AM
 
Location: North America
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American slavery is the second biggest guilt-inducing tool in the socio-political guilt trip toolbox.

...The Holocaust, however, is the biggest.
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Old 12-02-2011, 06:25 AM
 
Location: Meggett, SC
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It's his room, his decision. Whatever. People really look for "controversies" nowadays. Trying to figure out why this makes the news.
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Old 12-02-2011, 06:54 AM
 
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It's his room, his decision. Whatever. People really look for "controversies" nowadays. Trying to figure out why this makes the news.
i thought it was newsworthy.

i mean i knew a guy when i went to carolina , who put a confederate flag in his window. a few hours later he had state troopers beating on his door demanding it to be taken down.

so i do find this story an interesting contrast to what i saw.
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Old 12-02-2011, 06:56 AM
 
Location: Meggett, SC
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i thought it was newsworthy.

i mean i knew a guy when i went to carolina , who put a confederate flag in his window. a few hours later he had state troopers beating on his door demanding it to be taken down.

so i do find this story an interesting contrast to what i saw.
State troopers, really? What rationale did they have? It's not against the law.
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Old 12-02-2011, 07:00 AM
 
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State troopers, really? What rationale did they have? It's not against the law.
yes, SLED. because he was legally on "state owned property," this was illegal.
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Old 12-02-2011, 07:03 AM
 
Location: Londonderry, NH
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If people object to the desplay of this rag they should just shun the desplayer.
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Old 12-02-2011, 07:03 AM
 
Location: Meggett, SC
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yes, SLED. this was legally "state property."
USC huh? Well, that's interesting. Hey, I got some of my degrees from USC. Anyway, I think my point was that it seems silly for people to get so up in arms over a flag. I never understand why it always makes the news as a "controversy".
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Old 12-02-2011, 07:35 AM
 
Location: In a Galaxy far, far away called Germany
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People should realize by now, that the more that one group of people deride, ridicule, demonize another group of people, person, cause, flag, music, etc., the more it will win out in the end. People have demonized the Confederate battle flag for so long now, that even the younger black people are using it as a form of vicarious rebellion from their previous generation. White America did the same thing with the English, German, and Japanese flag. It is human nature. The point is - you can squawk all you want about something - but it only lasts for one generation (or so).
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