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Old 12-23-2011, 08:51 AM
 
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I'm sorry, but calling a life threatening pregnancy a "tag line" just reeked of ignorance, in the true sense of the word, lack of knowledge. Here's a google search for you:

Google
Ok let's look for an easier statistic. Of all of the abortions that happen per year, what % of them are considered for saving the mother's life.

I can't seem to find that.
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Old 12-23-2011, 08:52 AM
 
Location: New Jersey
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I'll point out the REPUBLICAN stance on this.


If you don't like your job or can't or won't do it...GET ANOTHER JOB.



It IS a concern that a nurse is allowed to pick and choose who she'll help.

Will that carry over to whether or not she feels the elderly should be kept alive or even comfortable?

Can a nurse choose to not help a severely impaired newborn who only has a life of agony ahead of it?

Will a female nurse decide not to help male patients because she was raped or abused by one??


Maybe nurses should just be glad they HAVE a job ...
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Old 12-23-2011, 08:54 AM
 
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as most others have said, don't apply for a job doing something that might include something you don't want to do.
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Old 12-23-2011, 08:56 AM
 
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It's pretty rare that a mother's life is significantly put in jeopardy due to pregnancy, but you could always argue that any pregnancy puts the mother's life in jeopardy. It's really a cop-out in most cases. Rare is the situation where a mother will die if the baby is not aborted and the baby will die outside of the womb.

That's why I call it a tag line. I know it happens. But the true tag line should be "Because they don't want the baby", which is pretty ridiculous IMO. Yet, that sounds bad so we aren't allowed to use that as the reason for abortion. We have to reach for the extreme once in a blue moon situation, just because it thrives on emotion.
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Old 12-23-2011, 08:57 AM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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It's pretty rare that a mother's life is significantly put in jeopardy due to pregnancy, but you could always argue that any pregnancy puts the mother's life in jeopardy. It's really a cop-out in most cases. Rare is the situation where a mother will die if the baby is not aborted and the baby will die outside of the womb.
A cop-out, lol! That google search I did lists conditions/diseases separately. I don't know if the particular statistic hOtmess is looking for is even available. Many people are familiar with the story of Tim Tebow's mother, who had dysentery and was advised (supposedly) to get an abortion to save her life. She chose not to take the medical advice, and it worked out fine. That is not always the case.
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Old 12-23-2011, 08:58 AM
 
Location: Texas
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That's why I call it a tag line. I know it happens. But the true tag line should be "Because they don't want the baby", which is pretty ridiculous IMO. Yet, that sounds bad so we aren't allowed to use that as the reason for abortion. We have to reach for the extreme once in a blue moon situation, just because it thrives on emotion.
This thread isn't about reasons for abortion, it's about whether someone's employer has the right to force them to participate in something they find morally wrong.
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Old 12-23-2011, 08:59 AM
 
Location: Va. Beach
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I can understand that not ALL abortions are elective, and that some are done as a lifesaving procedure, and in that case, I can fully understand and agree that it is a part of the nurse's job.
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Old 12-23-2011, 09:00 AM
 
Location: Anchorage, Alaska
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The charge nurse should be prepared to do a the job that their staff is doing. Plus, people have been saying that but everything I know about the case says these are post-op nurses, not case managers.
The original article I read, when this story first broke a few months ago, said some of them were case managers. That may have been incorrect but not out of the realm of possibilty. I'm currently doing pediatric case management/nursing.
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Old 12-23-2011, 09:00 AM
 
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That's why I call it a tag line. I know it happens. But the true tag line should be "Because they don't want the baby", which is pretty ridiculous IMO. Yet, that sounds bad so we aren't allowed to use that as the reason for abortion. We have to reach for the extreme once in a blue moon situation, just because it thrives on emotion.
women don't need to explain to anyone why they are getting an abortion. in the first trimester there really is no questions asked. the 1% of abortions that are late term are to save the life of the mother. no reason to "reach" for anything as it is no ones business.
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Old 12-23-2011, 09:02 AM
 
Location: Texas
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I can understand that not ALL abortions are elective, and that some are done as a lifesaving procedure, and in that case, I can fully understand and agree that it is a part of the nurse's job.
I agree that, unless a nurse works at an abortion clinic or other place where abortions are a primary part of what they do, she (or he) shouldn't be forced to participate in abortions except in life-threatening circumstances.

It seems that abortion is very common at this hospital. It's hard to know where to draw the line.
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