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Old 12-27-2011, 04:38 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Naw, he's just pretending to not understand what the debt ceiling is about. I don't know why though. Being foolish rarely enhances ones esteem. To each his own I guess.
The government shut-downs in the 1990s resulted in a lot of people not getting paid, and a lot of services shutting down, contracts being canceled, tourism taking a major hit etc, etc and those shutdowns lasted very short periods of time. The impact this time would be severe, and would guarantee Obama being re-elected, just like the 1990's shutdowns guaranteed Clinton's re-election. People have no tolerance for such political games where regular people get hurt in the process.
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Old 12-27-2011, 04:50 PM
 
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I don't get you debt mongers. What is the big f-ing deal if its a few trillion. The government currently has an almost unlimited ability to borrow in the treasuries market. Have you seen the demand by private investors (hint: it is huge) and the insanely low interest rates? Obama should just tell the teabaggers to go to hell and borrow 5 trillion more.
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Old 12-27-2011, 05:31 PM
 
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I don't get you debt mongers. What is the big f-ing deal if its a few trillion. The government currently has an almost unlimited ability to borrow in the treasuries market. Have you seen the demand by private investors (hint: it is huge) and the insanely low interest rates? Obama should just tell the teabaggers to go to hell and borrow 5 trillion more.
Someone needs a lesson in Economics 101.

The reason there is such a high demand by private investors and such a low interest rate is because private investors know that the country is essentially screwed, thus making other avenues of investment unsafe. At least with the US government, they know that the government will steal money from unborn children of 2100 to pay for the poor policies of 2011 politicians. Something that public companies don't have the luxury of doing.

The market is going to crash. Every decent investor knows it's going to happen. The only question is when. If that imminent catastrophe were not on the table, private investor interest in US debt wouldn't be anywhere near what it is now. It's nothing but a safe haven from people who understand that our economy is hosed.
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Old 12-27-2011, 05:33 PM
 
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Oops, you are way off.

debt on 12/23/2011 was $ 15,128,573,259,990
debt on 09/30/2009 was $ 11,909,829,003,510
Obama added $3.22 trillion to the total debt. OBAMA ADDED JUST OVER 1/4 TO THE DEBT.

debt on 9/30/2009 was $ 11,909,829,003,511
debt on 9/30/2001 was $ 5,807,463,412,200.06
Bush added $6.1 trillion to the total debt. Bush DOUBLED THE NATIONAL DEBT IN 8 YEARS.

...President Obama almost tripled deficit spending before his 100th day in office?

Try again.
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Old 12-27-2011, 05:42 PM
 
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Yeppers, he's asking for this because it's an election year coming, and he needs to finish crashing our currency so he can have a true, National Emergency to use and bring martial law? Maybe he can have us so very upset, scared and freaked-out next Nov. that we won't have a way to know if there is gigantic, Election Fraud. No other way he's going to win election.

His Fundamental Transformation appears to still be a work in progress.
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Old 12-27-2011, 05:47 PM
 
Location: Hinckley Ohio
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Here is Cato's thoughts;

http://www.cato-at-liberty.org/dont-...-2009-deficit/

Sorry, you try again, FY2009 was bush, Obama wasn't't even in office when it began in October 2008. Remember, back when bush handed away the keys to the treasury?

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Old 12-27-2011, 05:57 PM
 
Location: Inland Empire, Calif
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I believe it is to keep the Country operating, so again, is there a point being made somehow?
The point you continue to prove over and over again, is that politics are WAY over your head...
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Old 12-27-2011, 06:00 PM
 
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Daily Kos: House Democrats remind GOP that Reagan raised debt limit 18 times

Raising the debt ceiling is nothing unusual unless you're a winger with a special need to whine. Have at it wingers, whine about Reagan and all his debt ceiling raises..But you wont now will you?
The number of times its raised is meaningless, its the TOTAL amount that counts
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Old 12-27-2011, 06:02 PM
 
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Sorry, you try again, FY2009 was bush, Obama wasn't't even in office when it began in October 2008. Remember, back when bush handed away the keys to the treasury?
Repeating ignorance 10 times only makes you wrong, 10 times.. Obama SIGNED the spending, Obama owns it, not Bush
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Old 12-27-2011, 06:03 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Oh just give the man a blank check. Obviously controlling the budget and even trying to project what you need is beyond the scope of our current government.
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