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Old 12-27-2011, 01:55 PM
 
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Actualy I thought the resale was better , but very low in initial quality reports.
It has improved a bit. I got killed on my TT coupe some years ago. I mean MURDERED. I wouldn't have bought it if i'd known that. Awesome ride though.
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Old 12-27-2011, 01:56 PM
 
Location: Murika
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They are almost identical. The VW starts at 20k and goes up to 30k just like the rest you mentioned.
Exactly! Now, I've driven them all and can tell you that I got a much better ride in the Passat. I also got a very nice interior (although I did like the LaCrosse as well) that had a higher quality feel for it - the LaCrosse, for example, had a little sliding lid on the center console that felt super cheap and could not be properly opened or closed without the lid getting stuck. The Passat had no such issues!

Thus, for the same price, you can purchase a better quality vehicle.

I actually fully expected to purchase a US car because prices, traditionally, have been lower. Currently, that is not the case. I understand that German manufacturers price their cars incredibly competitively in the US (prices in Germany are MUCH higher for just about the same vehicles you get here). Alas, their strategy seems to be working.
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Old 12-27-2011, 01:56 PM
 
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I cant fault em for that.
LOL...fault'em? Hell, i congratulate 'em!!

Our stupidity about this "free trade" nonsense isn't their fault. They've been laughing their asses off at us for decades.
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Old 12-27-2011, 01:56 PM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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Ummmm, you're able to do that when your products are good. German made cars are WAYYYYY better than anything American made the last several years. They also cost A LOT more!
Ratings | J.D. Power

Oh really?

Got anything factual to support your opinion?
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Old 12-27-2011, 01:57 PM
 
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I sold a real rat that my stepdaughter had. I mean a rat. When she said she wanted $500 I laughed at her. Dude came to llok at it and I could even get it to start . He whipped out 5 bills and said Ill be back for it later. Was a jetta with 105k on it. felt like 305k.
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Old 12-27-2011, 01:58 PM
 
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In 2010, Germany produced more than 5.5 million automobiles; the U.S produced 2.7 million. At the same time, the average auto worker in Germany made $67.14 per hour in salary in benefits; the average one in the U.S. made $33.77 per hour. Here's the link to the article:



How Germany Builds Twice as Many Cars as the U.S. While Paying Its Workers Twice as Much - Forbes
Germans are better people on average. Smarter and more organized. Just travel to Germany someday and look around the cities and compare them to America's cities. No comparison. Whether you want to admit it or not.
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Old 12-27-2011, 01:59 PM
 
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Exactly! Now, I've driven them all and can tell you that I got a much better ride in the Passat. I also got a very nice interior (although I did like the LaCrosse as well) that had a higher quality feel for it - the LaCrosse, for example, had a little sliding lid on the center console that felt super cheap and could not be properly opened or closed without the lid getting stuck. The Passat had no such issues!

Thus, for the same price, you can purchase a better quality vehicle.

I actually fully expected to purchase a US car because prices, traditionally, have been lower. Currently, that is not the case. I understand that German manufacturers price their cars incredibly competitively in the US (prices in Germany are MUCH higher for just about the same vehicles you get here). Alas, their strategy seems to be working.
Did he LaCrosse feel cheaper overall, or was it just that one little sliding lid thingy?

I haven't had the pleasure of testing out a Buick lately, but i have to say that i've been highly intrigued over the last 5 years or so. They have some good looking rides.
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Old 12-27-2011, 02:00 PM
 
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So true. American auto makers produce casrs Americans want. Americans want all the bells an whisltes and cheap. We dont care if the car is trash when we make the last payment. Europeans buy cars with the intention of passing it on to their kids. Ive made parts for most American Manufacturers and alot of Japanese and the quality control on the *** vehicles blow away the Americans. If I am making parts for an american Man I do the QS 9000 minimum checks of 3 parts per shift on a specified number of dimensions. When I make parts for the *** man I check every part on all dimensions.

American manufacturers cornered the market they wanted yeas ago. That Market is PU trucks and mid to full size sedans. Both line are cheap but give the customer alot of options that usually break. They have also done well in the SUV and crossover markets

Americans demand junk, thats what we give em
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Old 12-27-2011, 02:01 PM
 
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Germans are better people on average. Smarter and more organized. Just travel to Germany someday and look around the cities and compare them to America's cities. No comparison. Whether you want to admit it or not.
We don't have to produce cars in the heart of the ghetto. I mean, let's be real here.

We're talking about a manufacturing policy. That has diddly squat to do with the condition of the cities. Yea, they're more organized there. But ECONOMIC PATRIOTISM is the reason for their success, and not organization.
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Old 12-27-2011, 02:04 PM
 
Location: Murika
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Did he LaCrosse feel cheaper overall, or was it just that one little sliding lid thingy?

I haven't had the pleasure of testing out a Buick lately, but i have to say that i've been highly intrigued over the last 5 years or so. They have some good looking rides.
No, I quite liked it. The sliding thingy was certainly no deal breaker but it did make me wonder about the rest of the car - after all, a little thing like that is not too hard to make in a decent way. For me, the deal breaker was that Buick had paid a lot of attention to the styling but apparently not enough to the fact that people actually DRIVE a car. The windows are very small and you basically cannot see much out of the rear view window. It felt a bit claustrophobic, particularly when you also considered the very wide center console.

To top it off, the Passat offered a whole lot more space.
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