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Old 01-04-2012, 10:29 PM
 
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Not bad for costing taxpayers 250K a car.

GM (GM) was originally so excited about the Volt that the company had announced in January it was speeding up its roll-out by six months. But by November the excitement had fizzled out. Larry Nitz, GM’s executive director for vehicle electrification told Reuters, “It’s naive to think that the world is going to switch tomorrow to EVs [electric vehicles].” Indeed, sales for the vehicle have been consistently low. Only 125 models were sold in July 2011. This was after GM spokeswoman Michelle Bunker was quoted as saying that the Volt was “virtually sold out” due to its popularity — a statement later shown to be misguided. Adding insult to injury, Chevy Volts are under investigation for fires involving the cars’ lithium-ion batteries. For concerned Volt owners, GM has offered free loaner cars.

The Worst Product Flops of 2011 - Yahoo! Finance
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Old 01-04-2012, 10:40 PM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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Putting it in perspective, numbers 1 and 2...

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1. Ashley Push-Up Triangle
Company: Abercrombie & Fitch

While no stranger to controversy, Abercrombie & Fitch (ANF) seemed to have crossed a line this time. In March, 2011, the retailer unveiled its spring line for Abercrombie Kids, a division targeting children ages 8 to 14. Included in the line was the “Ashley” Push-Up Triangle, a bikini top with padding. The launch prompted a violent response from parent groups. Several child development experts also criticized the top because it sexualized young girls. At first, Abercrombie tried to address the concerns by reclassifying the top as padded and saying it was not intended for very young girls. It stated on Facebook: “We’ve re-categorized the Ashley swimsuit as padded. We agree with those who say it is best ‘suited’ for girls age 12 and older.” But while the bottoms are still available, the bikini top is no longer featured on the company’s website.

2. Qwikster
Company: Netflix

In September 2011, Netflix (NFLX) announced that it would be separating its online streaming service and its DVD mail service. Streaming was going to continue under the Netflix brand, while DVD-by-mail was going to operate under a new website called Qwikster. The change and the accompanying increase in prices outraged customers, leading the company to kill off Qwikster before it was even launched. CEO Reed Hastings announced this decision in a blog post on the company’s website in which he began, “I messed up. I owe everyone an explanation.” The blog post was mobbed with more than 27,000 comments from angry customers. The ordeal cost the company approximately 800,000 customers.
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Old 01-04-2012, 10:41 PM
 
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Wouldn't product flops be more at home in the Science and Technology forum?

If you want to discuss the Volt's sales figures then shouldn't it be in the Automotive forum?
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Old 01-04-2012, 11:10 PM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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Wouldn't product flops be more at home in the Science and Technology forum?

If you want to discuss the Volt's sales figures then shouldn't it be in the Automotive forum?
Possible, but I think government funding of the Volt (directly via tax credits of some $7500 ea), it's development and the bail-out of the manufacturer makes it both political and controversial. GM has a habit of pizzing away $billions on PC, government supported ventures like this (remember EV-1 and fuel cell activities?) rather than on focusing on making good, quality cars that the consumer wants. And taking decades to develop marginal technology.

They certainly did some things right, especially back in '55. And the new LS engines are pretty great too.
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Old 01-04-2012, 11:13 PM
 
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Possible, but I think government funding of the Volt (directly via tax credits of some $7500 ea), it's development and the bail-out of the manufacturer makes it both political and controversial. GM has a habit of pizzing away $billions on PC, government supported ventures like this (remember EV-1 and fuel cell activities?) rather than on focusing on making good, quality cars that the consumer wants. And taking decades to develop marginal technology.

They certainly did some things right, especially back in '55. And the new LS engines are pretty great too.
yup because good, quality cars and the market are great no matter how much they release harmful chemicals my future children will breathe yep yep the market is the answer!
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Old 01-04-2012, 11:34 PM
 
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Why would you want a Volt when you can get the Leaf for a few grand less?
People in the market for a hybrid or electric are value buyers anyways and the Volt is overpriced.
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Old 01-04-2012, 11:43 PM
 
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yup because good, quality cars and the market are great no matter how much they release harmful chemicals my future children will breathe yep yep the market is the answer!
Future children? You would be irresponsible to bring children into a world where cars are driven around and oil is sloshed around and global warming will doom us all. What are you thinking?
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Old 01-05-2012, 12:33 AM
 
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Not bad for costing taxpayers 250K a car.
Please cite a source on that figure. I think you're probably just making it up.
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Old 01-05-2012, 02:24 AM
 
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Please cite a source on that figure. I think you're probably just making it up.
Chevy Volt Costing Taxpayers Up to $250K Per Vehicle [Michigan Capitol Confidential]
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Old 01-05-2012, 02:38 AM
 
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So your link is a right wing think tank that praises teabaggers, Yeah I'm going to believe that, just like I believe that half of Americans are freeloading deadbeats.

Even if it was true, which I doubt, how much of that was spent on research and development? Didn't think I'd come up with that diddy did you?

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