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Did nobody see the explosion and fire OUTSIDE the building on TeeVee? That would be the "jet fuel" mostly burning up OUTside...oh, except for the fact that we saw the "plane" slice through the building like a cartoon- no immediate explosion, no parts falling off.
It was a bomb or missile exploding- not a plane hitting. The CGI plane was added for our viewing pleasure to coincide with the explosion.
This guy seems honest and CERTAIN, as opposed to many in the coinkydink parade of MSM witnesses:
Doesn't it seem that EVERYONE reporting from within several blocks at minimum would hear a passenger jet approaching at high speed and low altitude? There would be no mistaking it and just about everyone would agree and would hear it BEFORE the "crash". Every report would include the thundering loudness of an approaching plane.
But instead there is huge disagreement on the "plane" size and descriptions and, as far as I know, very little reporting on hearing a plane approach although one or two non-MSM peeps reported something that "sounded like a missile".
sorry, but truthers are the immature claimers in this whole thing. They whine, and they pound their feet when they don't get their way (as with most conspiracy theorists)
Not a single person from A&911truth has done a shred of investigation into 9/11, yet you want to take their word, based on what they saw in videos and in photographs. And many of those "engineers" are not even engineers in the correct field of study (sanitiation engineer; yes I'm sure a person who cleans toilets knows alot about physics and building structures)
Do you know what that is called: Argument from False Authority and an Argument from Authority.
you're using people who are not schooled/studied in the field of studies required (false authority) and using the POSITIONS (without any research on their part) to argue a point.
These are known as logical fallacies.
Just because I'm knowledgeable about the aerodynamics of a plane, doesn't mean I know exactly what happened in a plane crash, just by simply looking at pictures.
No, you are taking the arguments from 1 or two people from a select few (who are not relevant to the fields needed to study 9/11), who have done 1) no research 2) never studied the event 3) haven't done any testing 4) never looked at the physical evidence and 5) whose calculatioons doesn't match peer reviewed studies of the event; all of whom didn't not publish a single report in an internationally recognized Scientifice or Engineering Journal (the ASCE provides a journal that these so called "engineers" could have published to..please provide a link to their study).
Wherras, we have over 200 authored and 400 peer reviewed scientists, along with several hundred independantly done studies by real scientists and engineers in the RELEVANT fields.
Please tell me how a pilot knows anything about Architectural Engineering?
What does a cold fusion expert know about physics?
When people say pot kettle black, I know they're loser juveniles and don't bother to read the rest of their prattle. When you learn to talk like an adult, maybe I'll hear what you have to say.
Nah, I've heard enough, you're goin on ignore
still 1.7 million engineers and 1.5 million architects in america that disagree
Source? I need to see the names and titles of every one of them, please.
And they need to be on record stating their position on the WTC collapses,
just as all the members of ae911truth have done.
So unless you're pulling these numbers out of your rear end, you need to come up
with a total of 3.2 million individual names and titles who are each on record stating why they support
the official story. Paid shills working for any government agencies don't count because they can't be considered independent. Good luck with that.
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Source? I need to see the names and titles of every one of them, please.
And they need to be on record stating their position on the WTC collapses.
So unless you're pulling these numbers out of rear end, you need to come up
with 3.2 million individual names and titles. Paid shills working for the government don't count.
what kind of idiot are you???
you want the 1.6 million engineers...here you go
Engineers From the Depatment of labor , bureau of labor statistics
Licensure. All 50 States and the District of Columbia require licensure for engineers who offer their services directly to the public. Engineers who are licensed are called professional engineers (PEs). This licensure generally requires a degree from an ABET-accredited engineering program, 4 years of relevant work experience, and completion of a State examination. Recent graduates can start the licensing process by taking the examination in two stages. The initial Fundamentals of Engineering (FE) examination can be taken upon graduation. Engineers who pass this examination commonly are called engineers in training (EITs) or engineer interns (EIs). After acquiring suitable work experience, EITs can take the second examination, called the Principles and Practice of Engineering exam. Several States have imposed mandatory continuing education requirements for relicensure. Most States recognize licensure from other States, provided that the manner in which the initial license was obtained meets or exceeds their own licensure requirements. Many civil, mechanical, and chemical engineers are licensed PEs. Independently of licensure, various certification programs are offered by professional organizations to demonstrate competency in specific fields of engineering.
Employment
In 2008, engineers held about 1.6 million jobs. Following is the distribution of employment by engineering specialty:
Civil engineers 278,400
Mechanical engineers 238,700
Industrial engineers 214,800
Electrical engineers 157,800
Electronics engineers, except computer 143,700
Computer hardware engineers 74,700
Aerospace engineers 71,600
Environmental engineers 54,300
Chemical engineers 31,700
Health and safety engineers, except mining safety engineers and inspectors 25,700
Materials engineers 24,400
Petroleum engineers 21,900
Nuclear engineers 16,900
Biomedical engineers 16,000
Marine engineers and naval architects 8,500
Mining and geological engineers, including mining safety engineers 7,100
Agricultural engineers 2,700
Engineers, all other 183,200
again. "ae911" only has less than 1500 supposed engineers( of those only 280 STATE they are licensed US engineers) and archetecs......((.1% out of 1.7 million is 17,000....0.5% out of 1.7 million is 8,500....Half of 8,500 is 4,250....The 1.6 million is only engineers, not architects; and only US Amricans, not worldwide. The 1500 contain both architects and Non-US engineers....so you have not even 1/10 of 1% of REAL professionals)) .................................................. .............only 1500 PAID shills of gage (puppet) and griffen(puppetmaster) and his conspiracy web
According to AE911Truth, differentdrum, cisco kid,and claudhopper... the massive conspiracy to murder Americans was carried out in part by:
The media
FDNY
NYPD
so are you guys really saying the FDNY was in on the conspiracy????
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Did nobody see the explosion and fire OUTSIDE the building on TeeVee? That would be the "jet fuel" mostly burning up OUTside...oh, except for the fact that we saw the "plane" slice through the building like a cartoon- no immediate explosion, no parts falling off.
It was a bomb or missile exploding- not a plane hitting. The CGI plane was added for our viewing pleasure to coincide with the explosion.
This guy seems honest and CERTAIN, as opposed to many in the coinkydink parade of MSM witnesses:
Doesn't it seem that EVERYONE reporting from within several blocks at minimum would hear a passenger jet approaching at high speed and low altitude? There would be no mistaking it and just about everyone would agree and would hear it BEFORE the "crash". Every report would include the thundering loudness of an approaching plane.
But instead there is huge disagreement on the "plane" size and descriptions and, as far as I know, very little reporting on hearing a plane approach although one or two non-MSM peeps reported something that "sounded like a missile".
All the YouTube videos in the world and all the people who sat watching it on TV and eating popcorn do not change what the people who were inside those buildings felt, saw, heard, and smelled. There was fire, there was damage, there were burned people, there was the smell of jet fuel.
And people outside DID hear the plane as it flew overhead. I have spoken to people up around 18th Street who looked up because they heard a low-flying plane as it flew over Manhattan, which took about a minute.
Still waiting for the names and titles of your 3.2 million architects and engineers.
You haven't provided even one yet. Apparently, you are full of sh*t.
What difference would it make? Any names you were given you would claim were "in on" the government conspiracy anyway. You're not a person one can have a rational conversation with.
What difference would it make? Any names you were given you would claim were "in on" the government conspiracy anyway. You're not a person one can have a rational conversation with.
It didn't take that many to expose the global warming scam, 1500 plus is more than enough. The witnesses said they heard something, they cannot attest that it was a plane. Witnesses are notoriously unreliable, because we try to put the pieces together in our brains to make sense. Nobody wants to believe that our gov't intentionally blew up buiidings full of people - but they did. The families deserve to know the truth, we all do.
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