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It doesn't work real well when you toss everything and everyone into one pile. I see both sides of LEO, the good and bad, the right and wrong...but to try to add fuel to this fire before knowing facts about what escalated this is trifling at best. Whenever someone young or old is killed, it is best practice and character to treat it with care and respect. Life is precious.
Many people's lives just changed drastically. With that said...someone did do something that they shouldn't have and that is what makes it so sticky. .
I have said many times that there are good and bad LEO. I have never lumped all LEO into one group no matter what some what to think. It's funny because my post didn't directly apply to the OP's post but some have jumped on it as if it was a slam against that certain incident. I was talking in general about LEO since it's been a hot topic issue lately.
The 1st article and its headline is the issue as it is intended to communicate an intentional biased outrage to a casual reader scannng the headlines. It may also be considered a dramatic lead-in along the lines of 'man bites dog' until you realize the content supports the first intention.
A choice was made with the first sentence to describe the 'victim' as an eight grader vs a 15 year old.
"An eighth grade student who was shot at Cummings Middle School this morning has died,..."
An 8th grader is a innocent young child. An 8th grader is an innocent 'student' pursuing a dream while engaged in after school activities such as the debating club and the choir.
A 15 year old is a statistical young gang member used to commit murder before the age of adulthood to escape the full slap of justice. The highest proportion of gang recruits is something like 12 to 15 years of age. Brownsville is right on the border. What's happening on the border these days?
The author of the 1st article could have pretended to be a journalist and present a much more informative and unbiased perspective to avoid the very thing Mathguy was warning against.
If the kid turns out to have been an actual student at the school, I agree with the author's presentation. If he turns out to have been an outside intruder in the school, I would tend to agree with you.
To me, engaged means he pulled his gun on the officers. Why else would they shoot him?? i know, i know.. but if your going to give anyone the benefit of the doubt, at least before the facts are released, you have to give it to the officers vs the kid with the gun.. IMO
To me, engaged means he pulled his gun on the officers. Why else would they shoot him?? i know, i know.. but if your going to give anyone the benefit of the doubt, at least before the facts are released, you have to give it to the officers vs the kid with the gun.. IMO
"engaged" is a VERY broad term, by chatting here on this forum we are "engaging". (engaging in conversation)
"engaged" is a VERY broad term, by chatting here on this forum we are "engaging". (engaging in conversation)
lol. Yeah, the cops shot a kid because he wanted to talk to them. You are always reaching for the damn stars with these topics. Wait for the facts so you look informed.
Well so far, it sounds like the only person that did something wrong was the kid. He didn't drop his weapon when told to and engaged the police. USUALLY, when you do these types of things, you get shot.
The kid became a crime statistic the second he brought the pistol onto school grounds.
I agree with some here that say we more information before making a judgement and that the entire thing is sad for everyone, including the police officers, no one wants to shoot an 8th grader, or anyone else for that matter. If the kid did point the gun at the officers they did the only thing left open to them under the circumstances, they have every right to protect themselves, most of us would do the same thing if someone pointed a gun at us or our loved ones. If he did not then they should have tried something else, Taser or Pepper spray. Get all the facts before assuming anything.
"engaged" is a VERY broad term, by chatting here on this forum we are "engaging". (engaging in conversation)
Engaged in police terms usually implies pointing a weapon at them or actually firing or attempting to fire at them. Just so you know. I seriously doubt they shot him for talking.
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