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Old 01-06-2012, 10:24 AM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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Clearly you left wingers are so full of hate, that you cant discuss facts and have to resort to this sort of babble.
I apologize for left wingers messing up the right wing plans in 2009, for the economy going forward. We'd enough of it leading to 8.8 million private sector jobs lost in just two years.
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Old 01-06-2012, 02:57 PM
 
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Not really. We (taxpayers) have not been paid back 100 percent and lost money on the deal. It was a bad day in America to see bondholders/shareholders have their money stolen and given to the UAW.
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Old 01-06-2012, 03:35 PM
 
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I apologize for left wingers messing up the right wing plans in 2009, for the economy going forward. We'd enough of it leading to 8.8 million private sector jobs lost in just two years.
When will you be man enough to apologize for the numerous lies you've posted about my position and stop posting babbling nonsense like this?
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Old 01-06-2012, 05:59 PM
 
Location: Old Mother Idaho
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Doesn't make it right. I don't see how any Obama supporter can on one hand bitche about the 1% and on the other hand agree with bailing out billionaires.
Uh- I don't know an Obama supporter who does support the billionaires! In fact, most of the criticism that's being heaped on the banks for hanging onto the money instead of using it to get the economy's wheels back under it is coming from the Democrats.

It's the Repubs who cling to the false belief that this bunch of greedy creeps are job creators. They're not creating any jobs at all, and they are not going to, until they are forced to give up some of the wealth they have to get the housing problems straightened out and to actually loan some money to small businesses again.

Too Big To Fail failed. The only way to get the big banks to pass around the money they got that they promised would turn things around is to starve them until they are forced to, and the Democrats for months have been in the forefront of pulling their small accounts out and putting them in the small local banks and credit unions, where the money goes into action, as it was intended to do.
If you want to do something active about making the bailout work, take your account out of BoA, Chase, and the big boys and put it in a local bank.

Or you can sit around, do nothing, and whine about past decisions. The brick pile is just over there, but throwing bricks does nothing at all to fix our problems.
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Old 01-06-2012, 06:07 PM
 
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Uh- I don't know an Obama supporter who does support the billionaires! In fact, most of the criticism that's being heaped on the banks for hanging onto the money instead of using it to get the economy's wheels back under it is coming from the Democrats.

It's the Repubs who cling to the false belief that this bunch of greedy creeps are job creators. They're not creating any jobs at all, and they are not going to, until they are forced to give up some of the wealth they have to get the housing problems straightened out and to actually loan some money to small businesses again.

Too Big To Fail failed. The only way to get the big banks to pass around the money they got that they promised would turn things around is to starve them until they are forced to, and the Democrats for months have been in the forefront of pulling their small accounts out and putting them in the small local banks and credit unions, where the money goes into action, as it was intended to do.
If you want to do something active about making the bailout work, take your account out of BoA, Chase, and the big boys and put it in a local bank.

Or you can sit around, do nothing, and whine about past decisions. The brick pile is just over there, but throwing bricks does nothing at all to fix our problems.
we have been taking from the rich, and giving to the poor for decades, and all that has gotten us is an entitlement mentality society. we have welfare recipients whose families have been on welfare for three generations. and now we have people demanding that the government raise taxes on the "rich" so the government can give that money to them. we have to END the entitlement mentality, not encourage it if we are going to get past the economic issues in this country.
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Old 01-07-2012, 05:02 AM
 
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GM's sales outpaced even the expert's predictions. It has re-passed Toyota to once again become the world's largest automaker in terms of sales.

Ford (which did not take a bailout) and Chrysler (which did) also beat expectations.



GM Leads U.S. Automakers to Secure Best Sales Year Since 2008 - Businessweek

So....what do the naysayer's have to say now? Was the Obama administration right or wrong?

Thanks Obama!
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Old 01-07-2012, 05:51 AM
 
Location: Pluto's Home Town
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An article that seems to be pretty honest about the big automakers:

The Comeback Of The American Car - Automotive News Story - WPXI Pittsburgh (http://www.wpxi.com/automotive/30140429/detail.html - broken link)

Personally, I prefer Ford, but I am glad that one of the engines of our economy is firing back up. Although GM brought a good deal of its problems on itself, the auto industry did suffer terribly collateral damage in the crash and credit freeze of 2008-2009. I think this is terrific news for American workers.
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Old 01-07-2012, 05:55 AM
 
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I'll post this again.....once we taxpayers get our $60,000,000,000 BILLION DOLLARS back, I'll agree.
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Old 01-07-2012, 06:26 AM
 
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An article that seems to be pretty honest about the big automakers:

The Comeback Of The American Car - Automotive News Story - WPXI Pittsburgh (http://www.wpxi.com/automotive/30140429/detail.html - broken link)

Personally, I prefer Ford, but I am glad that one of the engines of our economy is firing back up. Although GM brought a good deal of its problems on itself, the auto industry did suffer terribly collateral damage in the crash and credit freeze of 2008-2009. I think this is terrific news for American workers.

I prefer ford myself as GM makes some butt ugly vehicles. Thou they did do a real good job on te camaro.
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Old 01-07-2012, 06:56 AM
 
Location: Fort Worth, TX
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GM's sales outpaced even the expert's predictions. It has re-passed Toyota to once again become the world's largest automaker in terms of sales.

Ford (which did not take a bailout) and Chrysler (which did) also beat expectations.



GM Leads U.S. Automakers to Secure Best Sales Year Since 2008 - Businessweek

So....what do the naysayer's have to say now? Was the Obama administration right or wrong?
GM owns a lot of companies like Opel which produce very good cars and have always been quite popular around the world.

Meanwhile, stateside, GM (along with Chrysler) built some of the ****tiest cars of 2011:

GM, Chrysler dominate 'worst cars' list. Oh, and the UAW wants to thank you for bailing them out. | David Freddoso | Beltway Confidential | Washington Examiner (http://washingtonexaminer.com/blogs/beltway-confidential/2011/04/gm-chrysler-dominate-worst-cars-list-oh-and-uaw-wants-thank-you-b#ixzz1imII3g9M - broken link)
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