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Old 01-23-2012, 09:38 PM
 
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Walmart also pulled out of Germany. After 9 years of being unable to convince the average German that they were the place to shop, they sold off their stores.

Shortly after its arrival in Germany, Wal-Mart faced accusations that it was using short-term predatory pricing to put small shopkeepers out of business. Regulators ordered it to raise the price of basic foods such as milk, flour and butter.

Of course they got away with it here.
I bet those Germans who were enjoying cheep basic foods such as milk, flour and butter that they could get from Walmart are not that happy now.
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Old 01-23-2012, 09:41 PM
 
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Walmart also pulled out of Germany. After 9 years of being unable to convince the average German that they were the place to shop, they sold off their stores.

Shortly after its arrival in Germany, Wal-Mart faced accusations that it was using short-term predatory pricing to put small shopkeepers out of business. Regulators ordered it to raise the price of basic foods such as milk, flour and butter.

Of course they got away with it here.
There's a town about 40 miles from where I live that was completely obliterated by Walmart. Most of the small retailers closed up shop.
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Old 01-23-2012, 09:43 PM
 
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I bet those Germans who were enjoying cheep basic foods such as milk, flour and butter that they could get from Walmart are not that happy now.
Germans don't miss nor give a damn about Walmart. Walmart left, and the Germans are completely oblivious to their departure.

Germans aren't into bulk buying of groceries anyway. They patronize their small local markets for the most part and they usually shop every few days.
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Old 01-23-2012, 09:45 PM
 
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So who's paying for all that free stuff, the German rich?
Yea, and they don't go around whining about it.

And not only the rich...EVERYBODY pays in Germany.
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Old 01-23-2012, 09:47 PM
 
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Then maybe you should tell Oprah and the rest of the Human Rights Org. that little glimmer of common sense. And after you do that, you should pull your head out of the sand and realize that the Taliban ain't just some little social group just lopping off the heads of women for a good reason. Maybe it's for fun and the kind of fun they like. So mind your own business.
Again, i don't care about what the Taliban does in Afghanistan. That's not our business.
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Old 01-23-2012, 09:47 PM
 
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The Germans are proud and have class. Two things that are rare here.

Germans aren't far removed from being a country that had to rebuild extensively after two world wars. I would imagine this had a profound effect on those who remained there. With the hard work that was required to rebuild came respect for what you had in life.

Modern day Americans don't understand this because most everything has been given to them without any sacrifice. A 40 hour work week that doesn't include Facebook and texting is torture and punishment here.
The Germans happily live off the government. If that's pride and class...to each their own.

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Unemployed mom Fee Linker lives on welfare benefits in a centrally located five-room flat that costs about $1,500 a month. The garden terrace looks out onto a lush wooded area where birds chirp in the trees.

"I wouldn't get along without this government money, not with this apartment," says Linker, who sends her 6-year-old daughter and two sons, 7 and 10, to a private school. "It's my opinion that as a mother of three, I deserve a comfortable life."
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After providing poor citizens with generous stipends for decades, Germany's welfare system is coming under scrutiny like never before. Europe's economic powerhouse says that it's no longer able to foot the bill. Economists worry that maintaining current benefit levels for Germany's increasingly elderly population is placing an unfair burden on the young, who must eventually shoulder the cost.
Get a job and lose the happy bird chirping view AND private school...that German pride and sacrifice comes at quite a price, don't it? To others, who don't work or sacrifice for it, of course.

Where's the hardworking sacrifice?

Not to mention...where is your American mom living in 1500 sq. ft. subsidized apartment with a view and sending her 3 kids to a private school?

Missed it.
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Old 01-23-2012, 09:52 PM
 
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The German happily live off the government. If that's pride and class...to each their own.



Then reality hits:



Get a job and lose the happy bird chirping view AND private school...

Where's the hardworking sacrifice?

Missed it.
The Germans are smart. They'll figure it out. Besides, who are we to point fingers with our 14 trillion dollar debt and 3/4's of a trillion dollar annual war spending? Not to mention that our own entitlement programs need fixing.

They'll fix theirs....we'll sit around and complain about ours while fixing nothing.
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Old 01-23-2012, 10:00 PM
 
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Germans don't miss nor give a damn about Walmart. Walmart left, and the Germans are completely oblivious to their departure.

Germans aren't into bulk buying of groceries anyway. They patronize their small local markets for the most part and they usually shop every few days.
Exactly. Why would the Germans miss Walmart? Walmart after 9 yrs of trying couldn't persuade the German people to really shop there.

They were smart enough to realize that buy putting other smaller shops out of business, that eventually the economic fallout would reach them.

Unlike America, where many didn't care that they were shopping at at retailer who put American manufacturers out of work.

Just to save a few bucks.

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Old 01-23-2012, 10:08 PM
 
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Germans don't miss nor give a damn about Walmart. Walmart left, and the Germans are completely oblivious to their departure.

Germans aren't into bulk buying of groceries anyway. They patronize their small local markets for the most part and they usually shop every few days.
Are you a spokesperson for all Germans or something?
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Old 01-24-2012, 12:14 AM
 
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Are you a spokesperson for all Germans or something?
Coming from someone who just stated "I bet those Germans are missing out on those low food prices."

Go hijack another thread with baseless assumptions and hypocrisy. DD and I have both been to Germany and I can back up his statement. Germans love to patronize their local markets and don't mind paying higher prices for food as well as other goods hence why Walmart packed bags and left. I commend Germany for protecting their local markets as well as their exports.

As to answer your "who pays for the free stuff" yes the rich pay their share but Germany also has a fairly high Value added tax to their goods and fairly high taxes for other class of people as well. Everyone pays and in the end everyone is fairly content compared to here.
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