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Evangelicals, big business, libertarians, southerners, chicken hawks...it seems like our party is an uneasy coalition that's falling apart at the seems, as our different segments are having less and less in common with one another, and are less willing to support the others issues. Case in point: big business and libertarian voters want to distance themselves from evangelical platforms; southerners are becoming more disenchanted with big business practices such as private equity and shipping jobs to China; and everyone is distancing themselves from chicken hawks. Just look at our top candidates, one is big business, one is an evangelical, and the other is a libertarian...and they are all extremely different from one another. In 2008 the top 3 democrats were so alike you could hardly tell them apart.
I predict that the Republican party won't last in its current form. Judging from the strong sentiments I'm hearing from my fellow republicans, I think either a huge number of members will shift over to the libertarian party a few elections from now (if not by 2016), or a legitimate pro-business/neo-liberal economics party will form.
Evangelicals, big business, libertarians, southerners, chicken hawks...it seems like our party is an uneasy coalition that's falling apart at the seems, as our different segments are having less and less in common with one another, and are less willing to support the others issues. Case in point: big business and libertarian voters want to distance themselves from evangelical platforms; southerners are becoming more disenchanted with big business practices such as private equity and shipping jobs to China; and everyone is distancing themselves from chicken hawks. Just look at our top candidates, one is big business, one is an evangelical, and the other is a libertarian...and they are all extremely different from one another. In 2008 the top 3 democrats were so alike you could hardly tell them apart.
I predict that the Republican party won't last in its current form. Judging from the strong sentiments I'm hearing from my fellow republicans, I think either a huge number of members will shift over to the libertarian party a few elections from now (if not by 2016), or a legitimate pro-business/neo-liberal economics party will form.
Might still be a little too early to write the GOP's obituary...
The Democratic Party is made up of poor welfare minorities, wealthy elites that don't work, and Wall Street brown nosers like Jamie Dimon of JP Morgan Chase digging for more government handouts.
I think both parties are due for a major realignment.
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Evangelicals, big business, libertarians, southerners, chicken hawks...it seems like our party is an uneasy coalition that's falling apart at the seems, as our different segments are having less and less in common with one another, and are less willing to support the others issues. Case in point: big business and libertarian voters want to distance themselves from evangelical platforms; southerners are becoming more disenchanted with big business practices such as private equity and shipping jobs to China; and everyone is distancing themselves from chicken hawks. Just look at our top candidates, one is big business, one is an evangelical, and the other is a libertarian...and they are all extremely different from one another. In 2008 the top 3 democrats were so alike you could hardly tell them apart.
I predict that the Republican party won't last in its current form. Judging from the strong sentiments I'm hearing from my fellow republicans, I think either a huge number of members will shift over to the libertarian party a few elections from now (if not by 2016), or a legitimate pro-business/neo-liberal economics party will form.
The Republican Party is made up of poor welfare hicks, wealthy elites that don't work (like Romney), and Wall Street brown nosers like Jamie Dimon of JP Morgan Chase digging for more government handouts.
At this point, it might be better for the Republicans in the long run if they put Gingrich or Santorum up as their candidate, only to have them walloped by a substantial double digit percentage in the popular vote by Obama. If Romney is the nominee and he loses by 5% or so, the fringe of the party will blame the loss on the moderates. A landslide loss by a non-establishment type like Santorum would give the party the impetus to take a more moderate stance and pick up more independent minded voters, especially when Democrats might be emboldened by a landslide to push stupidly to their fringe.
The way things are going now, Romney would lose to Obama, though in a more respectable fashion. If that happens, then prospects for the Republicans are more grim for the future. The window to preserve Romney's chances in the general election is closing fast.
At this point, it might be better for the Republicans in the long run if they put Gingrich or Santorum up as their candidate, only to have them walloped by a substantial double digit percentage in the popular vote by Obama. If Romney is the nominee and he loses by 5% or so, the fringe of the party will blame the loss on the moderates. A landslide loss by a non-establishment type like Santorum would give the party the impetus to take a more moderate stance and pick up more independent minded voters, especially when Democrats might be emboldened by a landslide to push stupidly to their fringe.
The way things are going now, Romney would lose to Obama, though in a more respectable fashion. If that happens, then prospects for the Republicans are more grim for the future. The window to preserve Romney's chances in the general election is closing fast.
I think it's a little early to write off the republican party OR Romney;s chances in 2012. As for what Romney is experiencing right now in his recent setbacks? Attribute that to the negative campaigning that he is doing. His attacks on Gingrich are taking their toll on HIM as well. Meanwhile....Santorum isn't taking part in all that crap. he's just going out there day after day...relying on HIMSELF to meet with voters and have them heafr what he has to say. Down to Earth people appreciate that sort of ethic.
I think obama is ripe for defeat...but the way Romney is going about winning the GOP nomination is kind of like Sherman's scorched earth march to the sea in the Civil War....Yeah, he won the war....but at what cost? He certainly wasn't seen as the conquering hero. And if Romney wins, he will be looked down upon by a sizeable percentage of the republican base....as we witnessed in Minnesota, Missouri and Colorado last night.
Unless the republicans start attacking OBAMA, and let the VOTERS decide which of them is best suited to run against him, then obama will win. These 'Super Pac' ads are destroying the party. The enemy is obama...the goal is to defeat him with a candidate deserving to hold the office and who WILL make changes to the government that are NEEDED for us to survive this crisis.
Here we are in an economic meltdown...with people struggling to make ends meet, and here Romney is...spending MILLIONS on attack ads against his own party members. Is getting the nomination THAT important where you lose sight of the big picture?? Does ANYONE give a damn about the hole we are in?? People are watching...and millions like me don't approve.
Evangelicals, big business, libertarians, southerners, chicken hawks...it seems like our party is an uneasy coalition that's falling apart at the seems, as our different segments are having less and less in common with one another, and are less willing to support the others issues. Case in point: big business and libertarian voters want to distance themselves from evangelical platforms; southerners are becoming more disenchanted with big business practices such as private equity and shipping jobs to China; and everyone is distancing themselves from chicken hawks. Just look at our top candidates, one is big business, one is an evangelical, and the other is a libertarian...and they are all extremely different from one another. In 2008 the top 3 democrats were so alike you could hardly tell them apart.
I predict that the Republican party won't last in its current form. Judging from the strong sentiments I'm hearing from my fellow republicans, I think either a huge number of members will shift over to the libertarian party a few elections from now (if not by 2016), or a legitimate pro-business/neo-liberal economics party will form.
LOL
How quickly they forget the 2010 election results ..
I predict that the Republican party won't last in its current form. Judging from the strong sentiments I'm hearing from my fellow republicans, I think either a huge number of members will shift over to the libertarian party a few elections from now (if not by 2016), or a legitimate pro-business/neo-liberal economics party will form.
The Republican party is not itself when it's too far from it's party of Lincoln sensibilities. It's like all the ugliness and viciousness in America glommed onto it for 'representation' and sucked the life out of it. The kind thing to do would be to retire the jersey and people start calling themselves what they are. If you want to call yourself the theocracy party, fine. At least that's truth in advertisement. This other BS not so much. What does republican mean? Whatever they say it means, from minute to minute, depending on who's got the biggest ugliest super pac. This long drawn out identity crisis avoiding the mirror just keeps getting uglier.
I think the responses to this thread are evidence unto itself they forgot they had a family. Their own loss of moral compass. I'm having a seriously hard time thinking of these people as Americans anymore. Especially the theocrats.
At this point, it might be better for the Republicans in the long run if they put Gingrich or Santorum up as their candidate, only to have them walloped by a substantial double digit percentage in the popular vote by Obama. If Romney is the nominee and he loses by 5% or so, the fringe of the party will blame the loss on the moderates. A landslide loss by a non-establishment type like Santorum would give the party the impetus to take a more moderate stance and pick up more independent minded voters, especially when Democrats might be emboldened by a landslide to push stupidly to their fringe.
The way things are going now, Romney would lose to Obama, though in a more respectable fashion. If that happens, then prospects for the Republicans are more grim for the future. The window to preserve Romney's chances in the general election is closing fast.
This is so true. But they wont listen
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