US Media Takes Lead In Promoting War With Iran

[gwynedd1]

Originally Posted by spiellgood

Nice try muslim terrorist supporter, but I support a crushing war to terminate the iranian and syrian illegitimate terrorist regimes - and don't work for a "conservative think tank." I guess that does not compute in your brain.

I love reading the same talking point idiocies in thread after thread, pulled directly from the ron paul idiot manual on foreign policy.

Some of us are smart enough to see the potential lack of neutrality with anyone using a handle with a Yiddish word embedded within it.

You didn't have to tell us you are not associated with anything that thinks. We already knew.

[spiellgood]

Originally Posted by gwynedd1

Some of us are smart enough to see the potential lack of neutrality with anyone using a handle with a Yiddish word embedded within it.

You didn't have to tell us you are not associated with anything that thinks. We already knew.

Another rocket scientist making infantile, inaccurate accusations.

My ID was an accident, I didn't even realize it was mis-spelled until after registering.

Second, STILL hoping that someone with a brain on the left can come up with an adult ability to address my points, rather than personal insults - which seem to be all that the ron paul morons and far left psychotics can offer these days.

[renault]

Originally Posted by lifelongMOgal

The US media takes its talking points directly from the White House. Therefore it is the Obama administration taking the lead in promoting war with Iran.

I was going to say, the media is in Obama's pocket, so basically the media is the White House propaganda horn. Always has been but more so when a Democrat is in office so that the media has more freedom to push their neofascist progressivism and anti-American agenda.

Media Propaganda Sells Wars To America
warning: video from RT, another media propaganda outfit

[gwynedd1]

Originally Posted by spiellgood

Another rocket scientist making infantile, inaccurate accusations.

My ID was an accident, I didn't even realize it was mis-spelled until after registering.

What was it you were trying to spell? peegood? You certainly don't spell good. Odd how nothing appropriate seems close.

As I said, you seem not to realize things. And all I saw was a heap of insults from you which is what quickly turned me against you along with your other oversights.

Second, STILL hoping that someone with a brain on the left can come up with an adult ability to address my points, rather than personal insults - which seem to be all that the ron paul morons and far left psychotics can offer these days.

#1- only the mentally ill compare the US to a rogue terrorist regime of murderers like iran

You mean like that one? You can thank us for that since we overthrew their government and installed a dictator that tortured and murdered people who didn't like the idea of letting Western oil interests dictate the terms of taking their oil.



World: SAVAK: Like the CIA - TIME

The 5,000-member Iranian secret police force SAVAK (a contraction of the Farsi words for security and information organization) has long been Iran's most hated and feared institution. With virtually unlimited powers to arrest and interrogate, SAVAK has tortured and murdered thousands of the Shah's opponents. Last week, in fulfillment of a promise made by Prime Minister Shahpour Bakhtiar, the assembly approved a bill abolishing SAVAK and establishing a new National Intelligence Center, without police powers. The No. 2 man in SAVAK agreed to an unprecedented interview with TIME Correspondent David S. Jackson at the organization's heavily guarded, marble-decorated fortress headquarters in...

Our buddy the Shah...

[Mircea]

Originally Posted by padcrasher

No Russian or Chinese government owned media operation was ever as effective as the US media in brainwashing their citizens.

U.S. media takes the lead on Iran - Salon.com

Additional info....

Review of Matters Related to the Office of the Assistant Secretary of Defense (Public Affairs) Retired Military Analyst Outreach Activities
(Report No. DoDIG-2012-25)

http://www.dodig.mil/Ir/reports/RMAT...11redacted.pdf

Rumsfeld-Era Propaganda Program Whitewashed by Pentagon
Rumsfeld-Era Propaganda Program Whitewashed by Pentagon

Behind TV Analysts, Pentagon’s Hidden Hand

Message Machine - Behind TV Analysts, Pentagon’s Hidden Hand - Series - NYTimes.com

Those would make great "WANTED" posters.

By the way, not one single one of those pukes ever saw a nuclear weapon in their entire life. They couldn't tell the difference between a 3rd Shop and a field storage site.

Anyway, those articles and the government report are about a Psy-Ops Warfare program used against the American people.

Originally Posted by padcrasher

The leading promoters of war in the media are right wing, pro-Israeli, neocons employed by conservative think tanks.

Actually, they are left-wing.

There was a man, a Jew, named VI Lenin. Lenin was studying in Paris. Someone stuck Lenin on train and sent him back to Moscow with his entourage knowing that he would start a revolution and overthrow the Russian government, which would ultimately result in Russia bowing out of WW I.

Lenin had a friend, a Jew, named Leon Trotsky, and the two of them (and other Jewish friends) were successful in the overthrow. Afterward, Lenin turned on Trotsky. Trotsky fled to Mexico in 1929 and was assassinated in 1940 by the GRU.

Before Trotsky was assassinated, he was very influential among Jews in America. With his help, a group of Jews formed the Young People's Socialist League. The Young People's Socialist League eventually merged with the Social Democratic Party of America, becoming the YPSL/SDA.

The leadership within the YPSL co-opted the SDA party members and gained control of the YPSL/SDA, which was ultimately renamed as the Social Democrat Party.

It remained that until 1974 when the Social Democrats emerged under the aegis of neo-conservatism, a phrase actually coined by the US media and not themselves.

Anyway, I would recommend that you read Two Cheers for Capitalism by William Kristol and the Cultural Contradictions of Capitalism by Daniel Bell, both published around 1976 explaining their new position and why they abandoned their social democratic beliefs to improve your understanding.

They are anything but right-wing.

Originally Posted by padcrasher

and Neocons which are a much smaller group of primarily right wing Jews, with dual loyalty to Israel, who manufacture propaganda in the US designed to further Israeli interests.

Left-wing. And they have tremendous support from Democrats, who introduce nearly all of bills that are ultimately US tax-payer gits to Israel.

My favorite is Daniel Inouye-D formerly of California but now of Hawaii, who fell over backwards to give $8 Million US tax dollars to the French government to build private Jewish schools exclusively for Jewish school children in France.

I was always under the impression that France was the greatest super-power that ever existed in the Universe, including parallel and alternate universes which theoretically may or may not exist.

I never dreamed France was a 3rd World Country and couldn't find a $8 Million to build schools.

Historically...

Mircea

Originally Posted by Memphis1979

The definition of a Neo conservative is one who believes in the spread of democracy throughout the world either through direct, or indirect military power.

Congratulations, you just failed both Political Science and International Relations. That's incredibly difficult to do, but you did it quite well.

Consider that classical Liberals come in two flavors, interventionist and non-interventionist.

Academically...

Mircea

Originally Posted by Majordomo

We aren't considering attacking Iran because they are developing a nuclear bomb. We are concerned that they will develop nuclear technology that may give them the ability to produce a nuclear weapon.

No, that is not why.

Iran is acting in its own selfish interest and desires to sell oil and natural gas in a currency other than US Dollars.

If that will have a long term net negative affect on your economy, then you need to make the changes necessary to your economy to deal with that, even it if means another 6 Million Americans become permanently unemployed forever and your standard of living permanently declines.

Monetarily...

Mircea

Originally Posted by spiellgood

Should the US wait until iran has nuclear missiles capable of reaching the US homeland? Is that the moronic foreign policy you and the other far left, ron paul idiots, and other losers espouse?

When Iran tests a thermonuclear (fission-fusion) device, then by all means have it at.

Until then, a 1 kt uranium-based device mounted on an ICBM that can be destroyed by an anti-ballistic missile system such as the one the US possesses is no threat.

Just thought I'd point that out.

Originally Posted by spiellgood

Nice try muslim terrorist supporter, but I support a crushing war to terminate the iranian and syrian illegitimate terrorist regimes - and don't work for a "conservative think tank." I guess that does not compute in your brain.

Do you support a war to terminate US backed terrorist regimes?

Because if you don't, then that would make you an hypocrite.

So, are you? An hypocrite?

Originally Posted by spiellgood

A childish poster unable to address my points, so she makes personal innuendo and comments...no surprise there.

When you grow up and can debate points, let us know.

You have an habit of refusing to respond to facts thrown in your face, so one who lives in a glass house should not be throwing stones.

It's not terrorism when the US does it...

Mircea

Originally Posted by RCCCB

Iran has long been one of the leading state sponsors of terrorism worldwide.

So has the US. When are you going to attack yourselves?

Originally Posted by RCCCB

Their pursuit of nuclear weapons and a robust ballistic missile capability continues apace.

Naturally, you don't have any evidence. Even the IAEA claims Iran is enriching uranium to 20% which precludes the possibility of Iran producing plutonium.

How embarrassing is that?

Originally Posted by RCCCB

An emboldened Iran has vicariously waged war against America for nearly three decades...

Aside from waging war against the Iranian people for 40 years prior to the abdication of the Shah, what exactly did the US do for Iran?

Iran does have a legitimate casus belli. Refusing to acknowledge that does not alter the facts.

Former US government terrorist...

Mircea

[padcrasher]

Historically the may have been left but that was long ago.

Today, the are NOT left wing. They are right wing. The biggest NEOCONS today are RIGHT WING. John Bolton, Bill Kristol, Charles Krautheimer, Richard Perle, Wolfowitz, Douglas Feith, Max Boot, Jennifer Rubin, David Pollock, Eli Lake, Robert Kagan, .....all are Republicans, work for Republican, work at right wing think tank, or conservative pundits. . etc.....all right wing.

The only left wing Neocon I can think of is Martin Peretz and he's despised among most liberals.

[padcrasher]

Originally Posted by spiellgood

Just go back to stormfront already. It is tiring to read your garbage posts that blame everything on israel repeatedly. You can not defend a single point, its the same ron paul moronic nonsense over and over: "it's israel's fault!"

Pretend you have a clue instead of a slew of mindless talking points.

Classic scam of an Israeli firster.

If you find someone who opposes the Israeli goverment....accuse them of being antisimitic.

So tired and worn out ....the scam no longer works. They hope to shut down debate by screaming racism..

Sorry that doesn't work here.

Your dual loyalty to Israel needs to be taken into account when evaluating your Israeli inspired rhetoric on Iran.

You want my kids to lay it on the line for Israeli land grabs? ...You want to reach in my pocket for Billions sent to Jewish radicals? .....No thanks.