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I don't care if some ins. cover it or not, just the demand that catholics be force to provide those things it goes against their teachings. it is nobody's business you are right but when you want the government to do that then it becomes everyone's business!!!
One of the better aspects of having a "government" at the state or federal level is to put in place protections for employees. Be it for race, gender, disabilities, etc. You cannot count on ANY employer to have the best interest of its employees at its core. Personal beliefs, profits, greed all get in the way of treating people equally/fairly/humanely.
This is one instance. If the Catholic Church decides to go into business and be an employer and employ people from all over the world of varying beliefs, genders, and races, they really SHOULD be abiding by all the laws that are put into place to protect employees. The Catholics themselves do not have to use these things.
Again--you're not paying the price through increased premium costs for someone else's birth control. Part of the deal is that the insurance companies can't raise their prices. It costs you nothing, so if you're opposed to birth control you have a clean conscience.
by doing business with an ins. company that provides those services is the same thing as condoning it. I would not support a business that I did not like, I would rather take my business some where else!!
If birth control is for an illness, I can see it being covered. An actual illness. But to compare sex to an accident with INJURIES doesnt make sense, sorry.
I dont think viagra should be covered either to be honest. But really, that is more health related and more of an illness than becoming pregnant.
but if that accident with injuries was the result of voluntary recreational activity one chose to participate in, why should insurance cover it?
nobody is demanding anything. they dont say you cant use birth control all they are saying that thay dont want to pay for it. it is a sin according to their believes! you can buy your own at a drug store if you want!!
This is yet another example of collectivism at work. The business is providing its employees health insurance, and getting tax deductions for it. It should be up to personal beliefs of the employees to engage in how they go about using that benefit. Employers are not expected to itemize what services they want to cover or not. If they can't handle and respect employee's freedoms, they ought to stay out of things that intrude into government's authorities.
YES HOW MUCH IS A DOCTOR VISIT 60 BUCKS 50 BUCKS FOR THE PILLS YOUR OUT 110$! not a whole lot of money!!! I know doctors here that will do that for me. you be surprise
I have no idea what quacks you're talking about, but here in FL a visit to an OB/GYN can run as high as $200 without insurance.
Listen, its more than obvious that you dont have any idea of which you are speaking, so I am not going to bother replying to you anymore.
Oh yeah, replying in caps is the same as yelling, so knock it off, ok?
by doing business with an ins. company that provides those services is the same thing as condoning it. I would not support a business that I did not like, I would rather take my business some where else!!
Then you'd better drop your health care, because I don't know of a single insurer in this country who didn't offer birth control as part of insurance plans in the past if it was paid for at an extra cost. Most automatically covered it on comprehensive plans already--you would have had to go out of your way to purposefully have it excluded. The only difference now is that it has to be part of comprehensive health care plans, and they can't raise insurance costs to cover it. You've been doing business with a company that offers birth control coverage--maybe not to you but to others--for as long has you've had health insurance.
This is yet another example of collectivism at work. The business is providing its employees health insurance, and getting tax deductions for it. It should be up to personal beliefs of the employees to engage in how they go about using that benefit. Employers are not expected to itemize what services they want to cover or not. If they can't handle and respect employee's freedoms, they ought to stay out of things that intrude into government's authorities.
so they should not provide ins. at all !!!that is silly!!
Then you'd better drop your health care, because I don't know of a single insurer in this country who didn't offer birth control as part of insurance plans in the past if it was paid for at an extra cost. As an employer you could buy plans that didn't offer it, but it was always available. The only difference now is that it has to be part of comprehensive health care plans, and they can't raise insurance costs to cover it. You've been doing business with a company that offers birth control coverage--maybe not to you but to others--for as long has you've had health insurance.
oh I bought bc for my wife before this isn't about me. I know how much it cost 5 yrs ago. it about forcing people to do things that are agianst their believes!!!
so they should not provide ins. at all !!!that is silly!!
Well, don't they believe in prayer being the better way than medicine?
They should provide insurance and take deductions and enjoy the benefits of extending such benefits to their employees. But when they go whining and bitching about having to do operate within laws while wanting to get the benefits provided by laws is where I have problems with... besides the idea of authoritarianism that an employee's health care issue be dictated, not by the insurance companies, the doctors and the patient, but by the whims of the religious gurus.
I have no idea what quacks you're talking about, but here in FL a visit to an OB/GYN can run as high as $200 without insurance.
Listen, its more than obvious that you dont have any idea of which you are speaking, so I am not going to bother replying to you anymore.
Oh yeah, replying in caps is the same as yelling, so knock it off, ok?
oh didn't know I was yelling sometimes I push the cap button and forget to push it agian!
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