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Does that mean health insurance shouldn't cover accidents? I lean, if you're hurt while voluntarily rock climbing you shouldn't be covered. Also, I took birth control to help with debilitating cramps long before I became sexually active. In that case, it WAS to help with a medical condition. Should women have to have a valid medical reason to take bc now?
When Viagra and other ED meds are banned from coverage, then we can talk.
If birth control is for an illness, I can see it being covered. An actual illness. But to compare sex to an accident with INJURIES doesnt make sense, sorry.
I dont think viagra should be covered either to be honest. But really, that is more health related and more of an illness than becoming pregnant.
Actually it is a hobby to some. But that is besides the point. It is a planned recreational act. Insurance is for the unexpected sickness or illness. Insurance
is for something you cant exactly plan on happening.
Insurance USED to be for unexpected illness or sickness (last I checked they were the same thing, BTW). Over the years, insurance has grown to cover just about everything. The whole umbrella of "preventive care" is now covered and has been shown to reduce catastrophic illnesses that cost the insurance companies a fortune if discovered to late.
It is to the insurance companies' benefit to prevent as many pregnancies as they can because prenatal care, delivery, and possible complications cost them a fortune.
This is also why they do mammograms, colonoscopies, EKGs, and the like. To detect catastrophic conditions before they become catastrophic.
The reality is by paying for someone else's birth control, you are actually saving money. I know you will refuse to see it that way, but that's the way it is.
Actually it is a hobby to some. But that is besides the point. It is a planned recreational act. Insurance is for the unexpected sickness or illness. Insurance
is for something you cant exactly plan on happening.
Babies come from SEX. Everyone knows that it can happen with out protection. Babies are NOT an illness, sickness, disaster. So preventing a pregnancy is not preventing what I just mentioned. You take the risk, YOU PAY for it. Why the hell should we pay for your willing act?
And again, with abortion and raising your kid....again, that is YOUR choice to engage in the act so YOU pay for raising the child.
And someone tell me who gave Obama the right to force companies to pay for something at no cost? Cost being something passed to everyone else through
higher premiums.
So, in that same vein, do you believe maternity coverage should be denied as well? How about FMLA leave? Disability coverage for women who have complications?
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If birth control is for an illness, I can see it being covered. An actual illness. But to compare sex to an accident with INJURIES doesnt make sense, sorry.
I dont think viagra should be covered either to be honest. But really, that is more health related and more of an illness than becoming pregnant.
If you willingly went rock climbing, knowing full well that you could injure yourself, why should they be covered? They knew hurting themselves was a possibility. PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY.
If women are denied bc and have to pay for it themselves or simply stay abstinent, then men can pay for their ED meds or be abstinent.
All planned, recreational activities. Guess if I put a screw through my hand while building my garden, I'd be SOL.
Most health plans cover contraception because its a hell of a lot cheaper to supply someone with 400 dollars a year birth control then it is to birth a child, then cover the child going forward.
Over half of the women who take oral contraceptives do it to treat medical conditions unrelated to preventing pregnancy. The pill is used to treat everything from heavy periods, irregular periods, hormonal symptoms of menopause and mood swings, acne, polycystic ovarian disease--there's a long list of things.
Which of course are all things that women were TOLD by the MALE doctors that they were BAD things and unhealthy. When in reality those things may not always be "fun" but they are neither unhealthy nor abnormal! And are NOT health "issues" that need to be FIXED!!
If women could just stop listening to the "conventional wisdom" of the male dominated medical world and start listening to their bodies instead we would be a lot healthier physically and emotionally!!!!
I know this is sorta off topic, but it really pisses me off to see this "long list" of health issues that are normal, average, healthy ways a womans body reacts to her reproductive organs. But doctors want to make ALL women last for 5 days every 28 days, which is what is ACTUALLY abnormal and unhealthy!!! GAH!!! Birth control should NOT be used for anything OTHER than BIRTH CONTROL!!!
Ok, stepping off my soapbox now, just had to get that out. GAH!
Guess when my son plays baseball next year, ball hits him and knocks his tooth out, I'll just have to call him "toothless"
What a stupid opening premise, really, one of the worst thought out things I've seen on the boards in a long time. Hell, even birthers give more thought to their asinine ideas then this.
"The liberals are playing their typical bs games trying to make it seem that conservatives want birth control to be banned. "
That is exactly the game they're playing. Appears the "evil republicans want to ban abortion" card is played out so onto this.
Question is if this is allowed to go through then what next. Anything deemed by the admin will be provided for free it appears by insurance companies. Toothpaste, aspirin, TP hell anything that involves health. The quest to destroy the insurance industry which is a main goal if this bill marches on.
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