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If you're 20 and not a liberal it means that the 13 years of K thru 12 indoctrination didn't work.
It means you didn't buy the 'republicans want dirty air, dirty water, they are killing the polar bears, they're only for the rich, wal-mart is evil' mantra.
But if you enroll in any University for 4 years, your prog professors will do their best to brainwash you.
Perhaps you should try the education part and see for yourself!
If you're 20 and not a liberal it means that the 13 years of K thru 12 indoctrination didn't work.
It means you didn't buy the 'republicans want dirty air, dirty water, they are killing the polar bears, they're only for the rich, wal-mart is evil' mantra.
But if you enroll in any University for 4 years, your prog professors will do their best to brainwash you.
It's true though. A free market means no government agencies to overlook our water supply and make sure food is safe to eat. Wal Mart is evil because they pay their employees awful salaries and ship jobs overseas. People in the academic areas tend to be liberal because liberal people tend to be smart. I think church schools are indoctrination, making kids believe in some magical being in the sky and that gays and atheists and abortions are of the devil while Muslims are our enemies.
Actualy it has more to do with making more money as one gets older. Then they start to realize how all those wonderful programs are paid for. All of a sudden they dont seem so wonderful.
A liberal looks at the common good for all. In other words, a liberal believes that all Americans have the right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. A conservative believes this as well but does not believe in it enough to pull their wallets out and support it. It is one thing to say that you believe in an idea, and it is quite another to actually pay for it. Conservatives want good roads, but do not want the taxes that come with maintenance. Conservatives want to live in crime safe areas but they do not want to pay taxes that support police departments. Conservatives want better education but do not want to pay for it. Some liberals do go overboard. I believe that most people who consider themselves totally liberal or totally conservative and not really all one way. What has to happen is that we, as a country, have to work together and define what we want and come up with a way of paying for it. I have to laugh at those who consider themselves to be conservative but are collecting social security just as I laugh at those who are liberal who complain about their taxes. People talk out of both sides..
I always laugh when people say the "fall of socialist Europe" yeah because Capitalist America's economy is wonderful with a plethora of jobs!
Yes, it is. See, here's the thing: conservatism made America into the most powerful nation on Earth. Liberals then come along, say the power isn't distributed evenly, take that power, and squader it. Then when things collapse, they say capitalism failed.
Your comment just falls into the same old pattern. America's capitalist economy created the most posperous nation on the planet, but then the liberals came along with the Great Society and started making massive deficit spending the norm rather than the exception and started massive social programs that redistributed the wealth away from the producers and incentivized unemployment. Eventually the economy tanked. Now you come along and say capitalism doesn't work. Duh.
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Most artists are liberal...ever wonder why conservatives claim Hollywood is liberal?
There's no need to wonder. Conservatives are discriminated against in Hollywood.
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I posted the following in another thread a while back but it applies here as well...
he essence of liberalism is empathy and imagination. They construct a world that does not exist and take steps to bring it into existence. This is highly sophisticated ideation confined only — so far as we know — to humans.
The essence of conservatism is to attempt either to impede liberals in their efforts to change the future, or actually return to some (always absurdly misunderstood) past state. The intelligence required to say, “Let’s all go back to 1955″ is less than the intelligence required to say “Let’s envision a world that does not now exist, but could, and let’s make that happen.â€
That's just nonsense. I can just as easily say it take more intelligence to critically examine past policies and world conditions and adapt the most effective policies to today's society than it does to imagine a fantasyland where everyone is carefree and happy.
What you present as critical analysis is really just partisan spin.
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The core of conservatism can be seen in an ant colony: let’s make the same ant heap again and again and again . . .
That's the core of liberalism. Let's build a society where everyone is the same and a small group of government officials make all important decisions on behalf of the masses. They do it again and again and again and every time the society they build cannot financially sustain itself and most of the time ends up being repressive in order to keep control of the masses as well.
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There’s a reason why “creatives†are overwhelmingly liberal. Creatives — artists, directors, designers, writers — spend their days creating not re-creating, inventing not pining for the good old days. That takes more horsepower. Sorry, conservative engineers and number crunchers, it does.
No, I'm afraid you're wrong. It takes a different kind of horsepower, not more. See right brain vs left brain.
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The conservative mind is more likely to require a supervising father figure: God. The liberal mind is more likely to be self-sufficient, probably because what the liberal mind is doing is not an attempt at faithful maintenance of the status quo but a revolutionary reassessment. A creative doesn’t need a god because he thinks he is one.
No, you're wrong again. Conservatism as a philosophy holds that man is inherently imperfect and that his moral compass and natural rights come from outside himself. Again, your analysis that the conservative mind requires "a supervising father figure" is just partisan spin.
Also, liberals always support bigger government than conservatives. So while they may not need God, they do need a father figure. Their father figure is Big Brother looking out for everyone with massive regulations and entitlements.
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Liberals create the world that conservatives then defend. There are going to be IQ differences between creators and defenders.
It's too bad so many people with high IQs lack common sense.
"Anyone who is not a liberal while young has no heart and anyone who is not a conservative when older has no brain"
I disagree with the right-wing misconception of the quote, thinking you become conservative with age and wisdom.
In reality, younger people change the world as they see fit, as you get older, it breaks your heart to see the next generations change the world as they see fit, making you feel like you have no place in it anymore. This causes you to want to preserve some of the ways in which you made the world.
This is what it means, not the silly idea right-wingers have of the quote.
Its a cute and clever statement by a great political mind but it is just a catch phrase. First of all, in the time of Churchill liberal and conservative ideals were much simpler to define.... and he was talking more to the British political system. Americans have bastardized the definitions of "liberal" and "conservative"... it is much more complex than a catch phrase.
That statement says more about charity versus pragmatism. I just think the world is much more complex than putting those two words against each other. We can have charitable conservatives and pragmatic liberals... we can also have selfish liberals and reckless conservatives.
Kids are liberal with their parent's money. Once they become adults and accumulate something worth "conserving" they see the light. Liberals have all these ideas but expect other people to pay for them. Conservatives live within their means.
"Anyone who is not a liberal while young has no heart and anyone who is not a conservative when older has no brain"
I disagree with the right-wing misconception of the quote, thinking you become conservative with age and wisdom.
In reality, younger people change the world as they see fit, as you get older, it breaks your heart to see the next generations change the world as they see fit, making you feel like you have no place in it anymore. This causes you to want to preserve some of the ways in which you made the world.
This is what it means, not the silly idea right-wingers have of the quote.
Its a cute and clever statement by a great political mind but it is just a catch phrase. First of all, in the time of Churchill liberal and conservative ideals were much simpler to define.... and he was talking more to the British political system. Americans have bastardized the definitions of "liberal" and "conservative"... it is much more complex than a catch phrase.
That statement says more about charity versus pragmatism. I just think the world is much more complex than putting those two words against each other. We can have charitable conservatives and pragmatic liberals... we can also have selfish liberals and reckless conservatives.
Not entirely true. I have always been a constitutionalist, and felt it wasn't the job of the government to support me, feed me, house me. At 18, I was scrambling to survive, working, living at the "Y" in Charlotte. Never once did I ever ask for a handout from the government, even when I was eating 1 meal a day, or every other day. The idea of asking for someone else to support me was repugnant to me then and is repugnant to me now.
In fact how ANYONE can ask someone else to support them is beyond me.
I hate pidgeon-holing myself into a political group, seems like such a waste. People do it, and then they form or cast themselves to fit their perceived notion of this ideology, instead of allowing their own thoughts and feelings to define them.
"Well for the most part I'm a republican, so I must force myself to agree with the standard republican ideology."
i like the quote. i think it applied to a different era. i don't think the Republicans are the right kind of conservative, and i don't think the democrats are the right kind of liberal. both of them suck.
In reality, younger people change the world as they see fit, as you get older, it breaks your heart to see the next generations change the world as they see fit, making you feel like you have no place in it anymore. This causes you to want to preserve some of the ways in which you made the world.
I was very politically active and also involved in social justice causes from my early-teens to my mid-20s. I wasn't alone. Many younger people were involved. And not all who would describe themselves as "liberal." I started as an activist/supporter of GOP issues. As I learned more, matured (even that young) I gravitated to more moderate to liberal political beliefs and actions. The younger ages are wonderful because you lack life experience and are more willing to throw caution to the wind. As you age and mature your viewpoint often develops and beliefs/actions can moderate, or become stronger in a particular direction. I'm in my early 60s now and my core beliefs are unchanged from those I held when I was 18 or 19. I don't walk the picket lines or pass pamphlets or attend demonstrations anymore. I leave those things for the younger group, with more energy and passion. However, I continue to express my almost life-long beliefs and like to think I'm living my life true to those beliefs. And by my example, my maturity, I believe I serve as a good example as to why people should behave similarly. I have no sadness that many of the issues or ways of addressing them today are different than how people handled them when I was in my teens. Life is ever changing. We can choose to be engaged on whatever level suits us, or complain and talk about the 'old days.' I choose to be engaged, best I can.
i like the quote. i think it applied to a different era. i don't think the Republicans are the right kind of conservative, and i don't think the democrats are the right kind of liberal. both of them suck.
The quote applied in an era, when the same guy (Winston Churchill) was into praising Mussolini for running over those damn liberals.
"[Mussolini is a] Roman genius... the greatest lawgiver among men"
- Winston Churchill
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