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View Poll Results: "You don't need a gun, if you make wise choices in life"
I agree with this statement. 41 14.75%
I disagree with this statement. 237 85.25%
Voters: 278. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 02-22-2012, 04:00 PM
 
Location: A safe distance from San Francisco
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So? What city do you live in, so I can verify the veracity of your statement.
Lol! Surely you jest.

Are you doubting the existence of many cities/towns across the country with comparable low crime?

Here are a few to get you started....

//www.city-data.com/city/Prairi...ge-Kansas.html

//www.city-data.com/city/Naperville-Illinois.html

//www.city-data.com/city/Missio...alifornia.html

//www.city-data.com/city/Cheste...-Missouri.html
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Old 02-22-2012, 04:12 PM
 
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Norway has a much lower crime rate than ours. You know as well as I that one tragedy does not provide data from which to make policy....and no one said or implied that any law can ever stop all criminal activity.

Your "Creator" has nothing to do with this discussion. Or are you suggesting that "non-believers" shouldn't even have a voice?

Human beings are born with independent minds, free will, and unabridged freedom in our most natural state. Our intelligence produces a clear understanding that we must come together in agreement on some fundamental ground rules so that we don't waste away all of our time of earth clubbing each other over the head. That is all our laws are.

Of course we all have a right to self-defense. What offenses do we have a right to? Murder? No? OK, what about the most deadly and widely used tool of murder? A tool that serves no other purpose.

You probably already knew this, but I didn't. Your "Creator" reference prompted me to do a quick Google search and I stumbled upon this page....

God in the State Constitutions - The U.S. Constitution Online - USConstitution.net

If this info is accurate, there are 8 states that have specific wording in their Constitutions denying public office to anyone who denies the being of God - or other words to that effect.

Fascinating. I learn many new things each day and it becomes clearer by the day that we are anything but United States.
Hunting, competition, collecting, "fun".

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Old 02-22-2012, 05:00 PM
 
Location: Va. Beach
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Lol! Surely you jest.

Are you doubting the existence of many cities/towns across the country with comparable low crime?

Here are a few to get you started....

//www.city-data.com/city/Prairi...ge-Kansas.html
Crime Index 49
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Crime Index 69
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Crime Index 63
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Crime Index 38, this is the SAFEST city you pointed out, still 4 points higher/less safe than Kennesaw.
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Kennesaw Georgia - Crime Index 34
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Thank you for pointing out the TRUTH of MY Statement, Kennesaw Ga., is safer than each of the cities you pointed out.

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Old 02-22-2012, 05:03 PM
 
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You are right, there are a lot of keyboard commandos. There are people whom I believe also, based on the TYPE and CONTENT of their post. Certain things are difficult to pretend. Many of the real people, can quickly ascertain whether we are dealing with a keyboard commando or the real thing. People who live and work with weapons, and those are trained have a different mindset, then those who don't.
Pounding your chest and making claims about how you would love the opportunity to confront a violent thug is a tell tale sign, yes??
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Old 02-22-2012, 05:05 PM
 
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Pounding your chest and making claims about how you would love the opportunity to confront a violent thug is a tell tale sign, yes??
No! You missed "Si vis pacem para bellum". Only a fool WISHES it!
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Old 02-22-2012, 05:08 PM
 
Location: MS
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Norway has a much lower crime rate than ours. You know as well as I that one tragedy does not provide data from which to make policy....
Australia outlawed guns over a single incident.

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What offenses do we have a right to? Murder? No? OK, what about the most deadly and widely used tool of murder? A tool that serves no other purpose.
It's not murder when you neutralize the threat to yourself or persons near you.
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Old 02-22-2012, 05:08 PM
 
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No! You missed "Si vis pacem para bellum". Only a fool WISHES it!

WAR IS PEACE, FREEDOM IS SLAVERY, and IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH

1984
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Old 02-22-2012, 05:12 PM
 
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WAR IS PEACE, FREEDOM IS SLAVERY, and IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH

1984
"Pray for peace, prepare for war". Where "9mm Parabellum" came from!
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Old 02-22-2012, 05:15 PM
 
Location: SWUS
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Norway has a much lower crime rate than ours. You know as well as I that one tragedy does not provide data from which to make policy....and no one said or implied that any law can ever stop all criminal activity.

Your "Creator" has nothing to do with this discussion. Or are you suggesting that "non-believers" shouldn't even have a voice?

Human beings are born with independent minds, free will, and unabridged freedom in our most natural state. Our intelligence produces a clear understanding that we must come together in agreement on some fundamental ground rules so that we don't waste away all of our time of earth clubbing each other over the head. That is all our laws are.

Of course we all have a right to self-defense. What offenses do we have a right to? Murder? No? OK, what about the most deadly and widely used tool of murder? A tool that serves no other purpose.

You probably already knew this, but I didn't. Your "Creator" reference prompted me to do a quick Google search and I stumbled upon this page....

God in the State Constitutions - The U.S. Constitution Online - USConstitution.net

If this info is accurate, there are 8 states that have specific wording in their Constitutions denying public office to anyone who denies the being of God - or other words to that effect.

Fascinating. I learn many new things each day and it becomes clearer by the day that we are anything but United States.
Disarming the Myths Promoted By the Gun Control Lobby - Forbes
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Old 02-22-2012, 05:18 PM
 
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I can "disarm" nearly every one. Walking around oblivious to danger and your surroundings gives most away!
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