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View Poll Results: Pro-life/Anti-choice?
Pro-life/Anti-choice 13 20.00%
Pro-life/Pro-choice 43 66.15%
Anti-life/Pro-choice 7 10.77%
Anti-life/Anti-choice 2 3.08%
Voters: 65. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 02-22-2012, 01:29 PM
 
Location: London UK & Florida USA
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Not sure why some people think that Abortion is something that any woman wants.
To choose a abortion is a very hard and painful choice but sometimes the best decission in certain situations.
I think many here would be amazed at the numbers of abortions performed every day here in America and for various reasons. To have a blanket ban on abortion is insane but regulations must be in place to stop late term terminations.
Many of the so called pro-lifers have had family members who have had abortions but they pay a private Doctor and keep very, very quiet about it. The poorer girls have to run the gauntlet of public opinion because they need Govt. help to get the abortion. This is just another case of if you are wealthy enough, abortion is a option, if not then you are a terrible human being......... hypocracy at its finest!
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Old 02-22-2012, 01:50 PM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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Well, plenty of conservatives feel pretty strongly that the government should regulate the sex and reproductive lives of the people, fearing they're not smart or moral enough to do so themselves. While they may admit it's difficult to enforce laws against sodomy, they think people should at least use such laws from the government to guide them as to how not to conduct their sex lives.

The rights of another being, the fetus, are also affected by the choice of the mother.

Now I'm pro-life and believe the answer to preventing abortions is subsidies on birth control (cheaper birth control or even free means less abortions) and sex education tailored around birth control measures other than abstinence. I do not however believe abortions should be banned.
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Old 02-22-2012, 01:54 PM
 
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Well whoopee for you.
Be anything you want to be on your body; your input and rights stop there.
For now. A little shuffle on the Supreme Court could change all that though.

See, the Supreme Court didn't guarantee abortion. Just the opposite -- they held that states could restrict abortion if it harmed a person. What they didn't do was define the fetus as a person. So the ban on abortion restrictions is really pretty tenuous. Roe v Wade was in no way an edorsement of abortion rights, it was merely a finding that they could not define what a person was and thus could not justify preventing abortion at that time. That's a huge difference.

So the same compelling interest the state has that allows it to mandate child support also allows it to ban abortion, except that the fetus is not currently defined as a child. If it ever is, abortion goes byebye.

It's only politics that's keeping abortion legal, not any strong constitutional foundation.
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Old 02-22-2012, 01:59 PM
 
Location: Earth
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Exactly, I had a right as 9-month old fetus, 8, 7, etc. that my mom didn't feel she had to take from me

I saw you didn't vote but you sound like an anti-choicer.
Yeah, you obviously have me pegged.
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Old 02-22-2012, 05:48 PM
 
Location: The Nanny State of MD
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I chose anti life and pro choice because I feel that too many humans are born every minute of every day and it's just getting worse and worse.
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Anti-life, anti-choice, and pro-abortion for the man's sake. Reasons I'm pro-abortion is because the world's overpopulated and there's too much humans have to deal with.
You two should really stop watching An Inconvenient Truth.
At least you're honest.

Totally pro-life/anti-choice.
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Old 02-22-2012, 05:56 PM
 
Location: Round Rock, Texas
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Not sure why some people think that Abortion is something that any woman wants.
To choose a abortion is a very hard and painful choice but sometimes the best decission in certain situations.
I think many here would be amazed at the numbers of abortions performed every day here in America and for various reasons. To have a blanket ban on abortion is insane but regulations must be in place to stop late term terminations.
Many of the so called pro-lifers have had family members who have had abortions but they pay a private Doctor and keep very, very quiet about it. The poorer girls have to run the gauntlet of public opinion because they need Govt. help to get the abortion. This is just another case of if you are wealthy enough, abortion is a option, if not then you are a terrible human being......... hypocracy at its finest!
I really like your posts.

I am pro choice up until 10-12 weeks. A woman has an entire trimester to make her decision. AFter that, I am not for abortion unless medically necessary. It's not so cut and dry with me. Also, people don't want government intrusion, yet want it when it comes to abortions? / not compute.
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Old 02-22-2012, 08:23 PM
 
Location: The Ranch in Olam Haba
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How about we have the feds regulate all schools to,w/o exception,really educate kids on sexuality before they become teenagers instead of teaching them about plants and calling it Sex Ed?
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Old 02-23-2012, 12:54 AM
 
Location: San Francisco Bay Area
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Needs to be an option of ambivalent/pro-choice.
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Old 02-23-2012, 12:59 AM
 
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I find it ridiculous that people will say "well I'm pro-choice" or "I'm pro-life" as if those were the only 2 possible standpoints.

I consider myself to be both pro-life AND pro-choice meaning:

I don't think abortions are good and should be prevented/discouraged by all means possible but at the same time they shouldn't be put into the "illegal/criminal" realm.

Shouldn't there be some other happy medium?
Are you against the death penalty and wars?
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Old 02-23-2012, 02:19 AM
 
Location: Duluth, Minnesota, USA
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I find it ridiculous that people will say "well I'm pro-choice" or "I'm pro-life" as if those were the only 2 possible standpoints.

I consider myself to be both pro-life AND pro-choice meaning:

I don't think abortions are good and should be prevented/discouraged by all means possible but at the same time they shouldn't be put into the "illegal/criminal" realm.

Shouldn't there be some other happy medium?
The problem is on the abortion is issue (which is what people are referring to 99.9% of the time when they use these euphemisms), the anti-abortion position IS pro-life, because abortion - indisputably - takes a human life. It's that plain and simple. A pro-choice person might be "pro-life" in other realms; against famine, against unjust wars, etc., but as far as abortion goes - the context whenever "pro-life" or "pro-choice" is spoken of - they are unabashedly anti-life by choosing to support the right of the mother to kill her unborn child. You can't be "pro-life" and "pro-choice" simultaneously, sorry.
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