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Do you think women are taking too little responsibility to decrease their chances of being raped?
I was reading a news article and a police officer was reprimanded for advising women to dress less provocatively.
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It all started on Jan. 24 when two male officers came to York’s Osgoode Hall law school to speak on a safety panel, alongside a pair of school security guards. The policeman, who reportedly prefaced his comment by saying “I’ve been told I shouldn’t say this,” instructed the audience that women should avoid “dressing like sluts” if they wanted to be safe from sexual assault.
“The cause of rape is not that women provoke it or entice it – men who want to attack women or assault women will find someone to attack or assault,” he said. Despite progress in recent decades, he said, many people still hold the view that women’s displays of sexuality somehow equate to bad behaviour.
The second paragraph seems to be to indicate that rape is inevitable and that there nothing women can do to avoid it.
It makes no sense. No one deserves anything bad to happen but there's always ways to decrease one's risk. It seems that everytime we give advice to women regarding rape, people will always claim that "we're blaming the victim".
An inproperly parked car doesn't deserve to be scraped, but that doesn't mean that I have no responsibility in parking it properly. You can argue that a drunk, alone, and provocatively dressed women have the right to walk home at 12AM. But, would you want your daughter to do that? Wouldn't you tell her to be more sober and take the taxi home?
Women can do everything in their power not to be raped, yet some of them will be raped. They could be head to toe covered in a blanket, all it takes is one man with bad intentions to subdue her.
RAPE has nothing to do with being sexually attracted. RAPE is everything to do with CONTROL and the HUMILIATION of a woman
What more can women do? They can't control what man thinks or will do.
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What about horses? What is a horses's responsibility? Should it wear less shiny shoes?
Or is it just some whacko who has a thing for horses? What can the horse do?
This thread is dumb.
I will show you why
It makes no sense. No one deserves anything bad to happen but there's always ways to decrease one's risk.
You over walking over a live volcano. You have on safety gear, and are as strapped in as possible. BOOM! The volcano explodes. You are about to die in 3 seconds.
Quick, figure out a way to decrease your risk from death.
Women can do everything in their power not to be raped, yet some of them will be raped. They could be head to toe covered in a blanket, all it takes is one man with bad intentions to subdue her.
You can use that argument for just about anything. How is it different from:
People can do everything in their power to get a job, yet some people will still be unemployed. Let's stop wasting time writing resumes then.
Kids can do everything in their power to avoid being bullied, yet some still do. Let's stop teaching them social skills.
People can still do everything in their power to avoid getting hit by cars, yet some people will still get hit by drunk drivers. Let's stop using the sidewalk and start walking randomly.
What part of "decreasing" risk do you not understand? I never said that all risk will be elminated.
I don't think the OP's out of line. We don't count our money when we're walking down the sidewalk in a high-crime neighborhood. No one's saying the crime is right or justified, just talking about common sense actions to minimize being a victim.
I see a lot of women dressed in skimpy, tight clothes and high heals, which might be appropriate for the relatively safe confines of the dance floor, but when the night's done and they're teetering down the sidewalk at 3 am a little intoxicated they are, without a doubt, far higher targets for people with bad intentions.
This has nothing to do with acquaintance rape, though, which is far more common than people think.
I don't think the OP's out of line. We don't count our money when we're walking down the sidewalk in a high-crime neighborhood. No one's saying the crime is right or justified, just talking about common sense to minimize being a victim.
Maybe you should read what he quoted and what he took from it.
"decreasing risk" is not the same as "accepting responsibility", which is the verbage you used.
bingo !!
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