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Yes, it seems that Wake County, NC commissioners managed to defeat an attempt by someone to take them over in the name of sustainability. Notice that the opponents of the sustainable report just happened to be Republicans who must outnumber Dems on the commission. Anyway two votes were unanimous although a couple of Dems worked pretty hard to get it through. The ones against it were all against ICLEI and the fact that the whole thing was begun at the United Nations meeting in 1992. Four of our Presidents since then have supported Agenda 21 ( that would be two Bushes, Clinton and Obama) but at least one local governing body has turned it down.
Anybody who knows about ICLEI and what it has attempted, very successfully, in various areas should be able to see that sustainability is against the American way of living.
Hmmm , so there against the Market Trends and Investment? Smart Growth is not that evil , if done right with the consent of most people in the town its going up. Which is why they have workshops in the Northeastern states to work with the local towns and cities where the Smart Growth plans are put into place. Alot of these towns have blighted areas ripe for Smart Growth , so that's where most of it is going. Out of 690 Smart Growth Projects in the Northeast , only 3 take property from people who are often poor immigrants.... Most of the Smart Growth in NJ , CT , NY , New England , and PA are going ontop blighted abandoned Industrial lands , that have sat vacant for decades and don't serve a propose. The Largest Smart Growth plan is underway in Urban Jersey its about 3 SQ of Blighted land that hasn't been used since the 1960s.... The Current trends are people moving back from the Auto-Suburbs and into the Inner Ring Suburbs and Cities , its unlikely to change seeing how its been going on for 15 years and starting to gain steam in the Denser US regions.
You could oppose these plans but then you run into the Anti-Sprawl people , which makes up a huge chunk of the Rural population. Some people claim that this limits mobility , it encourages more walking and biking which are 2 free modes of transportation....
The Population of the US will be close to 450 Million by 2050 not everyone is going to live in the suburbs..... About 80% of the Suburban Population of the Northeastern US already lives in Smart Growth suburb , these Smart Growth suburbs date back to the 1910s , they strike a balance between dense and sprawl... 10% of the Suburban Population lives in a Auto Suburb which is completely car dependent and sprawly , that's dropping as more and more people choose the denser older suburbs.... Its a Market / Lifestyle trend unlikely to end in our lifetimes....a Nice Dense Downtown , which a semi-Sprawly residential layout , its how most of us live in the Northeastern suburbs. You often walk downtown to hang out , instead of using a car which is nice.... We don't have as much Land as most regions of the US , so we use every sq mile carefully and wisely.
The Newer Smart Growth Plans in Rural NJ draw a buffer between the Sprawl and Farm lands which are under constant threat from sprawl. Ive seen half my childhood in PA erased because of Sprawl...Farmers often feel pressured to sell , or the town makes it hard for them to stay. So these New Smart Growth plans create a barrier which has slowed the sprawl which has decreased the amount of farmable land in the Northeast.
Hmmm , so there against the Market Trends and Investment? Smart Growth is not that evil , if done right with the consent of most people in the town its going up. Which is why they have workshops in the Northeastern states to work with the local towns and cities where the Smart Growth plans are put into place. Alot of these towns have blighted areas ripe for Smart Growth , so that's where most of it is going. Out of 690 Smart Growth Projects in the Northeast , only 3 take property from people who are often poor immigrants.... Most of the Smart Growth in NJ , CT , NY , New England , and PA are going ontop blighted abandoned Industrial lands , that have sat vacant for decades and don't serve a propose. The Largest Smart Growth plan is underway in Urban Jersey its about 3 SQ of Blighted land that hasn't been used since the 1960s.... The Current trends are people moving back from the Auto-Suburbs and into the Inner Ring Suburbs and Cities , its unlikely to change seeing how its been going on for 15 years and starting to gain steam in the Denser US regions.
You could oppose these plans but then you run into the Anti-Sprawl people , which makes up a huge chunk of the Rural population. Some people claim that this limits mobility , it encourages more walking and biking which are 2 free modes of transportation....
The Population of the US will be close to 450 Million by 2050 not everyone is going to live in the suburbs..... About 80% of the Suburban Population of the Northeastern US already lives in Smart Growth suburb , these Smart Growth suburbs date back to the 1910s , they strike a balance between dense and sprawl... 10% of the Suburban Population lives in a Auto Suburb which is completely car dependent and sprawly , that's dropping as more and more people choose the denser older suburbs.... Its a Market / Lifestyle trend unlikely to end in our lifetimes....a Nice Dense Downtown , which a semi-Sprawly residential layout , its how most of us live in the Northeastern suburbs. You often walk downtown to hang out , instead of using a car which is nice.... We don't have as much Land as most regions of the US , so we use every sq mile carefully and wisely.
The Newer Smart Growth Plans in Rural NJ draw a buffer between the Sprawl and Farm lands which are under constant threat from sprawl. Ive seen half my childhood in PA erased because of Sprawl...Farmers often feel pressured to sell , or the town makes it hard for them to stay. So these New Smart Growth plans create a barrier which has slowed the sprawl which has decreased the amount of farmable land in the Northeast.
OK, now is ICLEI involved in your Smart Growth program? If so I think that re-studying it all might be in order.
OK, now is ICLEI involved in your Smart Growth program? If so I think that re-studying it all might be in order.
There not as far as i know , its Market Trends pushing the Smart Growth in most of this region. NYC , Philly , Boston and Smaller Cities have strong pull in terms of redevelopment..... Most of the plans up here have been voter approved or have local input. Not all plans have town wide development plan , most towns opted for the Downtown only Smart Growth plan which focuses on Infill development and attracting businesses back to Main street. My town opted for a Transportation Smart Growth plan , which after 2 weeks of research and input from residents they came out with a 2040 plan which gives more land back to residents....by opening up Greenways and Parklands and making the streets safer for Pedestrian.
Most don't see the goal of the agenda 21 folks. To them it's all fine and dandy. Put those words like sustainability in there and they get all giddy. The dream of racking and stacking folks into population centers and shipping them around on hi speed rail to leave the land for the chosen few and the animals is the final outcome.
Most don't see the goal of the agenda 21 folks. To them it's all fine and dandy. Put those words like sustainability in there and they get all giddy. The dream of racking and stacking folks into population centers and shipping them around on hi speed rail to leave the land for the chosen few and the animals is the final outcome.
oh, right. forgot that everything is a liberal conspiracy.
There not as far as i know , its Market Trends pushing the Smart Growth in most of this region. NYC , Philly , Boston and Smaller Cities have strong pull in terms of redevelopment..... Most of the plans up here have been voter approved or have local input. Not all plans have town wide development plan , most towns opted for the Downtown only Smart Growth plan which focuses on Infill development and attracting businesses back to Main street. My town opted for a Transportation Smart Growth plan , which after 2 weeks of research and input from residents they came out with a 2040 plan which gives more land back to residents....by opening up Greenways and Parklands and making the streets safer for Pedestrian.
What you are talking about sounds very good from what you say. However, it has nothing to do with the topic of the thread which is why I asked about the movement and ICLEI.
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