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Old 02-27-2012, 04:27 PM
 
Location: Texas
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TransCanada will begin construction of one portion of the Keystone pipeline from Cushing, OK to the Texas Gulf coast immediately. Only the portion of the pipeline which crosses the international border needs State Department approval and only the portion across Nebraska has been delayed because of environmental concerns. The rest of the line can be built now.

The Obama administration fully supports this move. In fact, it still supports construction of the whole project, in spite of what people on the right are claiming. They've never said otherwise.

TransCanada to Build Texas Segment of Keystone XL Pipeline - Businessweek
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Old 02-27-2012, 04:40 PM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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TransCanada will begin construction of one portion of the Keystone pipeline from Cushing, OK to the Texas Gulf coast immediately. Only the portion of the pipeline which crosses the international border needs State Department approval and only the portion across Nebraska has been delayed because of environmental concerns. The rest of the line can be built now.

The Obama administration fully supports this move. In fact, it still supports construction of the whole project, in spite of what people on the right are claiming. They've never said otherwise.

TransCanada to Build Texas Segment of Keystone XL Pipeline - Businessweek
Which is why all of the outrage is silly. The President had every intention to approve it, after the election. The "denial" was because Republicans forced a decision, for election purposes themselves, before the election.

Its all politics, and thats why they are building it now, sections that will take long after November, and then in December or Jan of next year, the pipeline will be approved.
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Old 02-27-2012, 04:45 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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TransCanada will begin construction of one portion of the Keystone pipeline from Cushing, OK to the Texas Gulf coast immediately. Only the portion of the pipeline which crosses the international border needs State Department approval and only the portion across Nebraska has been delayed because of environmental concerns. The rest of the line can be built now.

The Obama administration fully supports this move. In fact, it still supports construction of the whole project, in spite of what people on the right are claiming. They've never said otherwise.

TransCanada to Build Texas Segment of Keystone XL Pipeline - Businessweek
The company may alter the route in Nebraska, the company said in the statement.

They will alter the route through Nebraska or they won't build it at all. The State has spoken to that part already.

The thing about this one that gets me is that Obama had to have all kinds of studying done which would take at least as much time as early November and now old Jay Carney says they are ready to go. What a crock.

Hillary will attempt to hold that thing back as long as possible and that will be much too long for the real good of the nation.
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Old 02-27-2012, 04:47 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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Which is why all of the outrage is silly. The President had every intention to approve it, after the election. The "denial" was because Republicans forced a decision, for election purposes themselves, before the election.

Its all politics, and thats why they are building it now, sections that will take long after November, and then in December or Jan of next year, the pipeline will be approved.
And while they are getting around to real approval much of it will be built. Surely you see what is going on in that respect. Obama had to back down since too many people just didn't agree and the GOP will continue to use his first attempt to stop the thing against him although Carney says he is for it.
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Old 02-27-2012, 05:10 PM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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TransCanada will begin construction of one portion of the Keystone pipeline from Cushing, OK to the Texas Gulf coast immediately. Only the portion of the pipeline which crosses the international border needs State Department approval and only the portion across Nebraska has been delayed because of environmental concerns. The rest of the line can be built now.

The Obama administration fully supports this move. In fact, it still supports construction of the whole project, in spite of what people on the right are claiming. They've never said otherwise.

TransCanada to Build Texas Segment of Keystone XL Pipeline - Businessweek
Oh my...obama's base of radical environmentalists will not be happy. Of course he will again attempt to make a decision AFTER the election.
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Old 02-27-2012, 06:14 PM
 
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The company may alter the route in Nebraska, the company said in the statement.

They will alter the route through Nebraska or they won't build it at all. The State has spoken to that part already.

The thing about this one that gets me is that Obama had to have all kinds of studying done which would take at least as much time as early November and now old Jay Carney says they are ready to go. What a crock.

Hillary will attempt to hold that thing back as long as possible and that will be much too long for the real good of the nation.
ROY--LISTEN.

They're ready to go on different segments in different states, where the state has agreed to the plan by Keystone. Nebraska is still working with Keystone to sort out the path here. When the new path is finalized, they still have to go back and do an environmental impact study for the parts of the Nebraska line that have been moved. When they get approval from Nebraska, they can submit a final plan to tie the whole thing together.

I'm not sure what you're fussing about--Keystone is ready to go in other states--just not Nebraska. The feds can't approve the final plan until the Nebraska piece is finished, but there's nothing stopping Keystone from working on pieces of it in other areas--they just can't tie it all together and start pumping oil without federal approval.
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Old 02-27-2012, 06:33 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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Oh my...obama's base of radical environmentalists will not be happy. Of course he will again attempt to make a decision AFTER the election.
What she said, BELOW!

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ROY--LISTEN.

They're ready to go on different segments in different states, where the state has agreed to the plan by Keystone. Nebraska is still working with Keystone to sort out the path here. When the new path is finalized, they still have to go back and do an environmental impact study for the parts of the Nebraska line that have been moved. When they get approval from Nebraska, they can submit a final plan to tie the whole thing together.

I'm not sure what you're fussing about--Keystone is ready to go in other states--just not Nebraska. The feds can't approve the final plan until the Nebraska piece is finished, but there's nothing stopping Keystone from working on pieces of it in other areas--they just can't tie it all together and start pumping oil without federal approval.

Last edited by Katarina Witt; 02-27-2012 at 06:35 PM.. Reason: avoid confusion
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Old 02-27-2012, 07:15 PM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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The MAIN reason obama nixed the Keystone pipeline was to appease his environmentalist base. They lobbied for months and months on this project and threatened to withhold support and their votes from obama if he ok'ed it.

You think they'll be happy that the project is moving forward, regardless of obama's obstructionism?

No, he sees the writing on the wall and the bludgeoning the GOP will give him on the issue.

The federal government has spent THREE years reviewing the project and obama wanted a little more time.....til just AFTER the election...to make a decision.

Everyone knows that was a political decision, with the priority NOT being jobs, but his reelection bid.
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Old 02-27-2012, 07:27 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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What's the diameter of the pipes and how many sections are going to need welding and coating?

If they wanted it done, I see a month of work for a lot of guys, or years of work for very few, if it is just political fascist crony capitalism..
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Old 02-27-2012, 07:34 PM
 
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And while they are getting around to real approval much of it will be built. Surely you see what is going on in that respect. Obama had to back down since too many people just didn't agree and the GOP will continue to use his first attempt to stop the thing against him although Carney says he is for it.
No what's happening here is TC was arrogant, put through a half assed plan and then expected it to be approved. They're still fixing it. It's nobody's fault but their own.

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Everyone knows that was a political decision, with the priority NOT being jobs, but his reelection bid.
Do you ever stop and listen to yourself? Obama's entire election platform IS the unemployment rate. The only way that he can lose now really is if unemployment starts going up. I get what you just want to blindly whine about him, but can you at least do it in a way that makes sense?
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