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I doubt the church let them use it for free(10 years in the death care industry), or the pastor did not expect a check at the end. They (church) are to provide a payed service to customers (grieving family) - don't let religion muck up the waters too much.
Do these people REALLY think, WWJD, and then do this? It's political posturing BS and nothing more.
On the one hand, I can understand her grief. On the other, if this particular church does not agree with homosexuality, should they be forced to give someone communion?
Also, who put this funeral together? Why didn't they make sure they had a tolerant church/priest for this funeral?
It's quite possible that the funeral mass was in the church that her mother attended, and not in the one that Ms. Johnson and her partner attend if indeed they are practicing Catholics. As the more compassionate and realistic priest wrote to Ms. Johnson, it isn't the place of a priest to judge; that's still God's territory, despite the actions of some priests. If one's perception of a person is more important to a cleric than that person's spiritual needs, perhaps monastic life is a better choice than trying to deal with the reality of human diversity. To deny anyone comfort in a time of grief is despicable and completely contrary to the meaning of Christ's teaching.
I'm not Catholic, so I can't pretend to know much about Catholicism.
I would suspect that some priests are more lenient than others. I read this about Catholicism and communion:
No one but the priest actually knows why he refused her the Eucharist. He knows that she is not in a state of grace he cannot give her the Eucharist. The assumption that it was because she is gay is a big leap. The priest cannot defend himself by telling how she is not in a state of grace. It is a sin under Catholic doctrine for anyone to receive the body of Christ if he/she is not in a state of grace and the sin is greater for the priest if he knowingly administers the Eucharist under these circumstances. That is why a priest cannot knowingly administer the Eucharist to someone who is divorce and remarried without an annulment. To be divorced alone does not prohibit someone from being n a state of grace and receiving the Eucharist. Without knowing why the priest acted as he did, and his inability to discuss his actions, everyone is jumping to conclusions based up the woman being gay.
Receiving the eucharist is a spiritual, mental and physical demonstration that you are living - or attempting to live - in accordance with the truths of church teaching. Anyone who knows that they are not, should refrain from receiving until they have been to confession and made an attempt to amend their ways.
Is this not a case of forcing a church to do something that is against their doctrine/belief system?
If religion shouldn't infringe on the rights of gays (a la the gay marriage debate), why should gays be allowed to infringe on the rights of preists/churches?
I am methodist ;my wife catholic. They explain their policy and I do not take communion when attending service wit her. The same as strick catholics who are divoreced don't. I see no big deal other than some politcal statement.
I am methodist ;my wife catholic. They explain their policy and I do not take communion when attending service wit her. The same as strick catholics who are divoreced don't. I see no big deal other than some politcal statement.
Did you have to agree to raise your children "catholic"?
For my significant other to attend church as a practicing Catholic, she would have to have me sign a piece of paper agreeing to raise our children Catholic, or convert myself.
Is this not a case of forcing a church to do something that is against their doctrine/belief system?
If religion shouldn't infringe on the rights of gays (a la the gay marriage debate), why should gays be allowed to infringe on the rights of preists/churches?
No, it's obviously not, since the priest violated the church policy.
If she had a kid(especially a boy)maybe they could have worked something out. Catholic preist.......boy you gotta love them.......literally
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