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Old 03-05-2012, 04:49 PM
 
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If a woman is not having a lot of sex and doesn't need bc for medical purposes, it seems like a waste of money for everyone, whether the user is paying or the insurance company. Maybe it would be better to use something else which doesn't require a prescription and messing with hormones.
You take the same amount of BC pills whether you are having "a lot of sex" or none at all. Some women even take them to limit when they have periods, especially women athletes.

Its one of the most effective methods of birth control along with IUDs, etc... and they all require prescriptions or a doctor to put them in.
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Old 03-05-2012, 04:52 PM
 
Location: California
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So you are saying MS Fluke would be satisfied if the BC coverage was only for medical reasons? Then where is the problem---all agree on that. She could have saved every body's time and not testified.
There is no way for you to know why someone needs BCP, which is why it's not really an issue OR a problem
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Old 03-05-2012, 04:53 PM
 
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So you are saying MS Fluke would be satisfied if the BC coverage was only for medical reasons? Then where is the problem---all agree on that. She could have saved every body's time and not testified.
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Without insurance coverage, contraception can cost a woman over $3,000 during law school. For a lot of students who, like me, are on public interest scholarships, that’s practically an entire summer’s salary. Forty percent of female students at Georgetown Law report struggling financially as a result of this policy.
Forty percent I tell you.

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• There are 62 million U.S. women in their childbearing years (15–44).[1]

• Thus, only 7% of women aged 15–44 are at risk for unintended pregnancy but are not using contraceptives.[2]
Facts on Contraceptive Use in the United States

So that's like 4.34 million woman in total at the rate at Georgetown was 6 times the national average. What a coincidence that these future lawyers can't afford to have sex and eat at the same time.
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Old 03-05-2012, 04:56 PM
 
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So you are saying MS Fluke would be satisfied if the BC coverage was only for medical reasons? Then where is the problem---all agree on that. She could have saved every body's time and not testified.
No, she was there to support the BC requirement. She said she thought it was important and wasn't just "recreational", and then went into detail about a friend who needed it for a medical condition. Her point was it is more than just an "optional" thing, that women need these drugs.

See the response above. You are cherry picking, at no point did she say anything about needed birth control pills so she could have a lot of sex. LOL
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Old 03-05-2012, 04:56 PM
 
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You know what I discovered when I was researching health insurance for myself? There are some things covered with no copay now. For everyone. Annual exams and mammograms for example. Colonoscopies might be in there too, I'm not 100% about that. And there are some Rx policies that cover preventative drugs with no copay too.

Are you mad that there might be no copay or mad that the Catholics might have to have insurance that covers it offered to their employees? It's so hard to get a grip on what people are even upset about.
Both of those. Annual exams can be used by everyone, the others should have copayments. Sick people subsidize healthy people getting free "preventive" stuff. Not fair.

I would choose not to work for a religious institution for many reasons so I think that is a personal choice and the institution should not be forced to go against it's beliefs.
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Old 03-05-2012, 04:56 PM
 
Location: Cape Coral
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Let's use this thread to lay out the facts about contraception in the US.

The Guttmacher Institute is always a good place to start but any recognized health institution could also be cited.

Here's a few to get the ball rolling:

• Virtually all women (more than 99%) aged 15–44 who have ever had sexual intercourse have used at least one contraceptive method.[2]

• Overall, 62% of the 62 million women aged 15–44 are currently using a method.
What does this have to do with a dictator forcing all insurance companies to provide contraceptives for free?
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Old 03-05-2012, 04:58 PM
 
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You take the same amount of BC pills whether you are having "a lot of sex" or none at all. Some women even take them to limit when they have periods, especially women athletes.

Its one of the most effective methods of birth control along with IUDs, etc... and they all require prescriptions.
So what is the length for being at Georgetown to get a law degree? 6 years? 3 - 4 if you already have a Baccalaureate?

By her own words it takes $3,000 for BC over the span to get a law degree. that's $500 - $1000 year. $40 - $80 month.
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Old 03-05-2012, 04:59 PM
 
Location: California
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What does this have to do with a dictator forcing all insurance companies to provide contraceptives for free?
It won't be free but I'm impressed that you are looking out for those poor insurance companies. Fact is most do cover contraceptives becasue it's cheaper than maternity, thus bigger profits. So yay..right?
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Old 03-05-2012, 05:00 PM
 
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For religious institutions to not get an exemption from the law. Every insurance company is now required to cover basic health care needs, including contraception and birth control pills. The only form she mentioned in her testimony was the pill, I believe, which has many more benefits than preventing pregnancy.

Religious institutions want to prevent women from basic, modern, healthcare based on a reading of a 1700 year old book. I don't think, nor does Ms Fluke, that they should get that exemption.

Remember her testimony was about a Republican amendment that would free all health care companies from not providing any service they objected to.
Start making your protest signs now, because you're all going to be crying a river when the Supreme Court decides that the Obamacare mandate is unconstitutional this summer.

You're all going to look like a bunch of spoiled little kids that think that everything you want is a "right" that someone else should pay for, and you didn't get your way.

Then because of the bad publicity on Obama being someone who wipes his butt with the Constitution, he's going to lose the election in Novermber. Then all of you entitled people are really going to be upset. Violent I would guess. It's a real shame.
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Old 03-05-2012, 05:02 PM
 
Location: California
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So what is the length for being at Georgetown to get a law degree? 6 years? 3 - 4 if you already have a Baccalaureate?

By her own words it takes $3,000 for BC over the span to get a law degree. that's $500 - $1000 year. $40 - $80 month.

That includes Dr exams you know...us woman can't get BCP's without it.

Now, if we want to make BCP's cheap and OTC maybe this won't even be an issue...? That's another story.
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