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Old 03-18-2012, 06:32 PM
 
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did you really expect the goverment to do anything less?

they are so desperate to hold onto the power they covet, that in the end that same power shall destroy them.
Tis true. Waiting...
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Old 03-18-2012, 07:02 PM
 
Location: Old Bellevue, WA
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I just got around to watching the video, availble here if you do not like the 'blaze.'
The Vetting - Holder 1995: We Must 'Brainwash' People on Guns

It's funny when Holder urges people with "credibility" to include Marion Barry and Jesse Jackson, to join him in his crusade.

I think Holder will be a big liability to Obama in Nov 2012. Obama has never shown a reluctance to throw people under the bus; makes one wonder how Holder has been able to avoid that fate.
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Old 03-18-2012, 07:08 PM
 
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I just got around to watching the video, availble here if you do not like the 'blaze.'
The Vetting - Holder 1995: We Must 'Brainwash' People on Guns

It's funny when Holder urges people with "credibility" to include Marion Barry and Jesse Jackson, to join him in his crusade.

I think Holder will be a big liability to Obama in Nov 2012. Obama has never shown a reluctance to throw people under the bus; makes one wonder how Holder has been able to avoid that fate.
Good question.
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Old 03-19-2012, 03:35 AM
 
Location: Texas
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I just got around to watching the video, availble here if you do not like the 'blaze.'
The Vetting - Holder 1995: We Must 'Brainwash' People on Guns

It's funny when Holder urges people with "credibility" to include Marion Barry and Jesse Jackson, to join him in his crusade.

I think Holder will be a big liability to Obama in Nov 2012. Obama has never shown a reluctance to throw people under the bus; makes one wonder how Holder has been able to avoid that fate.
No, what you watched was an edited version of a 2 hour program on CSPAN covering a symposium on reducing youth violent crime. At the time, Holder dealt with that every day as a part of his job as United States Attorney for the District of Columbia.

His comments were about reducing the attractiveness of guns in a certain segment of the youth population, specifically young, urban gangbangers.

But, it's too late now to point out that his comments were taken out of context because this twisted and incomplete version spread across the extreme right-wing blogosphere as rapidly as syphillus in a cat house. Within hours, it was on hundreds of websites and is now accepted as "truth" by those who aren't interested in the REAL truth but are looking to have their prejudices validated.

This is how legitimately concerned American's are manipulated, but who cares about that? After all, like the President, Holder is a scary black guy in a position of power so any lie or half-truth will be accepted without question.
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Old 03-19-2012, 05:25 AM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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What year is it now?
What does that matter?
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And is Holder the Dictator of Gun regulation?
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Old 03-19-2012, 05:29 AM
 
Location: Massachusetts
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What year is it now?

And is Holder the Dictator of Gun regulation?
Deflection fail. Please feel free to try again. Actually please do. I'm sure it will be good for a laugh.
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Old 03-19-2012, 05:32 AM
 
Location: Massachusetts
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Holder is worse "than the Dictator of Gun Regulation".....LOL

[the mind of a gun nut, they are preyed upon by the NRA just like lonely old ladies are preyed upon by TV evangelists]

These poor souls think the AG can do anything he wants in a Constitutional Democracy.

They ACTUALLY believe that.


It just keeps getting better. As we have seen with Fast & Furious, the AG does think he can do anything he wants to further his agenda and when he's called out on it he cries racism. I'm not sure who's more pathetic: the Obama administration or their supporters.....
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Old 03-19-2012, 06:17 AM
 
Location: NJ
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The context of EH's words are clear and the editing of the clip has no bearing whatsover on his intent.

Reducing gun violence is a comendable thought and there are many ways to approach it.

Interesting that Holder chooses the to make guns repulsive as a means to discourage their use and possession.

As firearms are ingrained and seem almost innate in our population especially young boys, you might think stressing gun safety would be a sensible approach to be embraced institutionally by goverment agencies.

I have a note someone sent me from a teacher to a parent concerning her 4 year old, for drawing a picture of a gun in school. The picture is a few random dots that look more like a constellation of a water droplet than any inatimate man made object. the problem was when the kid was asked what he drew, he said it was a gun.

another friend who never had a gun in the house or talked of guns had her 5 year old say he dropped his 'rainbow stick' when they were getting in the car after daycare. She asked, what's a rainboe stick? that's my gun! But i can't say gun in school.

The feds and state have drug saftey, fire safety, driving safety programs for the grade and high schools but no firearm safety programs.

Why would society be so careless as to allow their kids to walk among the profusion of firearms in this country and not prepare them to act responsibily and safely when they might incidently come in contact with a gun?

Obama and his czars have made it clear that they never directly oppose anything that might put them in bad light with the voters. So like a maagician who diverts attention to perform a trick, these charlatans tweak legislation that makes owning and possessing a firearm a difficult task. sure you can keep your own healthcare, you can keep your guns, but it will cost you.

Restricting where guns may be discharged, tax and EPA regs on ammo and firearm manufacturing and sales, insurance costs, medical surveys about guns in the home, changing policies on federally owned land, activist judges such as the idiot in Nj who locked up a guy the new Gov pardoned.

Holder's course is set, there is no statute of limitations or automatic fading with time of radical or ineffective ideas. As EH is embraced by this radical administration he is 'cut of their cloth' and going full steam to save us from ourselves for social justice or the most dispised kind and political gain.
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Old 03-19-2012, 06:32 AM
 
Location: somewhere in the woods
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What year is it now?

And is Holder the Dictator of Gun regulation?
he is the AG and can help direct policy, no matter what anyone else thinks.
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Old 03-19-2012, 06:33 AM
 
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It just keeps getting better. As we have seen with Fast & Furious, the AG does think he can do anything he wants to further his agenda and when he's called out on it he cries racism. I'm not sure who's more pathetic: the Obama administration or their supporters.....
Did anyone have an agenda when Operation Wide Receiver was carried out in 2006-2007?
'Wide Receiver' gun-walking records released by Justice Department - Tim Mak - POLITICO.com
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