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I laugh out loud when homosexuals try to defend and excuse their deviant behavior by comparing themselves to animals. Since the homosexual identifies so enthusiastically and so strongly with animals and emulates animal behavior it isn’t so far fetched when folks get the impression homosexuals wish to include marrying animals in their redefinition of marriage.
I've never seen or heard a homosexual defend or "excuse" homosexuality by comparing himself to animals. Where have you seen this?
Homosexuality in animals is only brought up when the anti-gays throw out the "homosexuality isn't natural, it's a choice" ridiculousness. It's simply evidence presented to counter the patently false assertion that homosexuality is unnatural. It's not used to as part of the argument to defend homosexuality as being good, or moral, or right, etc. Those two concepts (natural vs. moral) aren't one and the same.
why do non gay people think about gay marriage at all? if you were not born with the gay orientation, gay marriage has nothing to do with you.
the gay marriage issue really only affects gay people, because we have no choice in being gay, we can either be gay and happy or gay and miserable, these decisions affect ONLY US in THAT AREA.
that's why i think it's weird that people who hate us think they should have a say in it. unless they know what it's like to be gay, since they're not making this decision for THEMSELVES but OTHER PEOPLE who they DON"T LIKE>
So? I simply was addressing your false claim about how allowing interracial marriage did not "redefine" marriage. It did. It changed the same-race/same-race foundation.
No, it didn't. You know it, too, you just don't want to admit it. The foundation of marriage has been man/woman. Restrictions based on race did not change this core definition.
No, it didn't. You know it, too, you just don't want to admit it. The foundation of marriage has been man/woman. Restrictions based on race did not change this core definition.
Of course it did. Any time a law is changed, then that law has been redefined to reflect the change. How is this even debatable?
I'm in favor of same-sex marriage but I don't see it as a denial of a civil right, as defined in Loving v Virginia, since the right to marry is not denied to gays.
You are being intellectually dishonest. Let's move on.
Huh? How?
The problem here, once again, is that you're conflating religious/traditional marriage with civil marriage. The two are separate, unrelated things. I'm discussing civil marriage - a legal entity - because that's what this debate is about.
If you want to have a discussion about religious marriages and whatever foundations they have, then take it to the religion forum.
The problem here, once again, is that you're conflating religious/traditional marriage with civil marriage. The two are separate, unrelated things. I'm discussing civil marriage - a legal entity - because that's what this debate is about.
If you want to have a discussion about religious marriages and whatever foundations they have, then take it to the religion forum.
I didn't introduce religion into this discussion, you did. Unless you can prove otherwise, you are being overly defensive.
Facts are facts; sometimes, they're ugly. Doesn't change what they are.
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