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Zimmerman pursued Martin, that is an established FACT.
Unfortunately for bigots a lot of "whiny, emotional" people do indeed care about the FACTS and want Zimmerman charged so he will stand trial.
Your rants about due process and civil rights is flawed. In case you haven't noticed this is an OPINION BOARD, not a courtroom.
You can't capitlize FACTS if you don't follow FACTS yourself.
Here is a FACT. We don't know for sure that Martin was innocent. All we have is evidence, in the form of what Zimmerman says, witnesses, and the 911 tape. According to this, Martin came back after Zimmerman, Martin was beating Zimmerman. If that's the case, then Martin is not innocent, fact.
We have nothing so far to say that Martin was just standing there and Zimmerman walked up to him and shot him for no reason, which could be a possibility, but certainly lacks any solid evidence.
I think the real issue is that there are no solid facts about this case.
Zimmerman's gun was in a holster, not in his waistband.
I read that when the cops shoed up he had the pistol in the holster in the front waist band of his pants I have asked before. How did he pull his pistol from the holster when it was in his waistband and the kid sitting on him?
wow what a bunch of AM radio dittohead psychobabble talk...
Could you elaborate on your comment? This is far from a normal shooting case. Although, most likely, Zimmerman will be charged with the death of Martin, the media has exploited this case to where it will be difficult for Z to get a fair trial.
I realize that there are a majority of people would like to skip the Constitution and put a bullet in Z's head and get it over with. They have already found him guilty without a reasonable doubt.
If I was Martins father, I would probably be first in line for wanting to do that. But we are supposed to be a nation of laws and not a third world country.
Some can argue if it wasn't for the pressure of the media, this case would have never seen the light of day and a young man's life would have been snuffed out without anyone caring...which actually happens dozens a time a day every day in our country.
The whole world is watching how we handle this case. If they are able to find a un-tainted jury of his peers in Sanford, FL they will be under immense pressure to find him guilty, regardless of the evidence. If a jury somehow finds him not guilty can you imagine what will happen then? It will make the Rodney King riots look tame compared to what will happen in Sanford.
I read that when the cops shoed up he had the pistol in the holster in the front waist band of his pants I have asked before. How did he pull his pistol from the holster when it was in his waistband and the kid sitting on him?
Depending on the type of holster it is possible to remove the gun in the situation you mentioned. There are holsters that allow you to fire your weapon successfully while still in the holster also.
You can't capitlize FACTS if you don't follow FACTS yourself.
Here is a FACT. We don't know for sure that Martin was innocent. All we have is evidence, in the form of what Zimmerman says, witnesses, and the 911 tape. According to this, Martin came back after Zimmerman, Martin was beating Zimmerman. If that's the case, then Martin is not innocent, fact.
We have nothing so far to say that Martin was just standing there and Zimmerman walked up to him and shot him for no reason, which could be a possibility, but certainly lacks any solid evidence.
I think the real issue is that there are no solid facts about this case.
I said- Zimmerman pursued Martin, that is an established FACT.
Do you have ears? If so listen to the 911 call. You can HEAR Zimmerman panting and running! So did the 911 operator which is why she asked him if he was following Martin, and he said YES.
So what I said is an established FACT. Sorry if you don't like it but it is right there for you to hear for yourself.
Now, Zimmerman's account after the fact-- which is all we have since Martin is DEAD.... is HIGHLY subjective, isn't it?
I trust the special prosecutor's investigation has proved Zimmerman a liar and the killing of Martin to be homicide and not self defense, which is why I expect charges to be filed very soon.
I read that when the cops shoed up he had the pistol in the holster in the front waist band of his pants I have asked before. How did he pull his pistol from the holster when it was in his waistband and the kid sitting on him?
it's easy. they are made to be accessible when needed. when i carry conceal. i can get to it very quickly. the holster is tucked inside the waistband but the pistol handle can easily be drawn without having to unstrap anything. unfortunately, those types of holsters (no straps) can allow the firearm to easily fall out during a struggle.
I said- Zimmerman pursued Martin, that is an established FACT.
Do you have ears? If so listen to the 911 call. You can HEAR Zimmerman panting and running! So did the 911 operator which is why she asked him if he was following Martin, and he said YES.
So what I said is an established FACT. Sorry if you don't like it but it is right there for you to hear for yourself.
Now, Zimmerman's account after the fact-- which is all we have since Martin is DEAD.... is HIGHLY subjective, isn't it?
I trust the special prosecutor's investigation has proved Zimmerman a liar and the killing of Martin to be homicide and not self defense, which is why I expect charges to be filed very soon.
state the law that one cannot follow someone in public. also listen to the 911 recording again when the dispatcher tells zimmerman not to do that. tell me if you heard zimmerman say "okay". remember, he went out of the car after martin made a run for it. listening to his heavy breathing in that few seconds of running tells alot about what shape he is in. very out of shape. these are facts.
also zimmerman's injuries are also facts. why would a cop risk perjury himself for someone he doesn't know.
I think the real issue is that there are no solid facts about this case.
Witnesses said who was where during the assault and shooting.
Evidence of a beating on Zimmerman after the event.
We all know you can't retreat when you are on your back getting your head handed to you. So unless the witnesses all change what they saw the pro-Martin crowd will never be pleased with the result of this trial.
If Zimmerman is found guilty of anything due to political pressure or a tainted jury, a Judge on appeal based on facts would be forced to overturn it anyway.
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