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...and therein lies the rub...who did the police take this report from? We all know the answer to this.
Based on Zimmerman's own admission of the 911 tape...he was following Trayvon Martin....but everybody already knows this.
So you believe Zimmerman 100% based on what you hear him say on the 911 tape but you think his statements in the police report is all lies?
In the 911 tape he answers yes to someone asking if he's following Trayvon, in the police report he clearly repeats this then explains that he goes back to his vehicle at which point Trayvon attacks him. I believe the 911 tape and I believe the police report, don't you?
I don't think there's any conspiracy going on, that's just stupid.
I was being sarcastic.
I guess I've posted too much when I can't find my own post. But I need to go back to see if anyone answered this yet.
You and others keep talking about how frightened Zimmerman was of Martin, so frightened that he had no choice but to shoot him to death. So why would anyone who thinks a person is dangerous, on drugs, possibly carrying a weapon, up to no good, etc., etc., follow that person in the dark? Zimmerman clearly says "he's running." Why wouldn't Zimmerman stay in his car or, if he was on foot when he said "he is running" go back to it? What moron would follow someone he believes to be dangerous criminal? That is, unless he thought "well, I have a 9mm gun." Still, I don't know why he'd go after him, especially when he told the police he saw something in his waistband. It just doesn't add up.
The rules of the neighborhood watch don't supersede the rules of the United States Constitution or the 2nd amendment. George Zimmerman had the right to defend himself against an attacker who was threatening his life. If he felt that his life was in danger while Trayvon was on top of him beating his head against the sidewalk then he had every right to use whatever force he felt was needed to eliminate that threat to his life. There's no good explanation for why Trayvon was on top of George Zimmerman beating him other than a brutal attack. Saving your life from an attacker can't be negligent.
You're so far behind it ain't funny. There had been a meeting when the HOA set up the neighborhood watch: Do not pursue, do not carry a weapon. Zimmerman was at that meeting, he knew the rules and broke them. Apprehension is the job of LE, which is why they get called. The young girl's cell phone was in use until only 1 or 2 minutes before Zimmerman fired. He was tailing a kid walking home from the convenience store and had no right to do so...had in fact been advised NOT to pursue. And now I'm finished...it gets dull having to bring Johnny Come Latelies up to speed.
I guess I've posted too much when I can't find my own post. But I need to go back to see if anyone answered this yet.
You and others keep talking about how frightened Zimmerman was of Martin, so frightened that he had no choice but to shoot him to death. So why would anyone who thinks a person is dangerous, on drugs, possibly carrying a weapon, up to no good, etc., etc., follow that person in the dark?
Short story...they wouldn't, unless they wanted to play Dirty Harry so badly that they'd shoot an unarmed kid. But hey...he played football. We all know what dangerous thugs those guys are...Peyton Manning is just
terrifying.
Trayvon Martin didn't live in that gated community. How difficult is it to
believe that he was looking at the houses to see the numbers and street names in order to find his way back to his father?
that's a good point. unfortunately, zimmerman didn't think Martin was looking for an address. we don't know the argument they had. if Martin felt he didn't have to explain himself, then zimmerman would get even more suspicious. but there is still the injuries on zimmerman and no injuries to martin.
that's a good point. unfortunately, zimmerman didn't think Martin was looking for an address. we don't know the argument they had. if Martin felt he didn't have to explain himself, then zimmerman would get even more suspicious. but there is still the injuries on zimmerman and no injuries to martin.
But he's not a cop! I don't get this type of reasoning at all. It wasn't his job to confront people. I guess I need to post the Neighborhood Watch rules again. Even a coordinator from the Sanford Police went to the community to do a presentation. It's been in several FL newspapers, but here, this is what I found just now using Google.
[url=http://news.cincinnati.com/article/20120330/NEWS/303300076/Police-guard-against-vigilante-citizens-patrol]Police guard against 'vigilante' citizens on patrol | Cincinnati.com | cincinnati.com[/url]
Sanford Police volunteer program coordinator Wendy Dorival told the Miami Herald that she had met Zimmerman in September at a community neighborhood watch presentation.
“I said, ‘If it’s someone you don’t recognize, call us. We’ll figure it out,’ ” Dorival told the newspaper. “‘Observe from a safe location.’ There’s even a slide about not being vigilante police. I don’t know how many more times I can repeat it.”
First, NBC News admitted they mischaracterized the 911 tapes in the Florida shooting that has dominated the media. Then, ABC News indicated that the police video did, after all, show there were gashes on the back of George Zimmerman’s head.
Now, CNN has indicated that its earlier analysis many have been incorrect -- it now appears the 911 tapes do NOT indicate that Zimmerman used a racial slur.
In light of all this media backtracking, read Larry Pratt’s column in U.S. News & World Report, where he points out other facts that have been mostly ignored by the media in regard to this case. Most of the news media that reported on this case left out facts and purposely edited out information that changes the whole scope of this shooting. Now you will know why Zimmerman can not be arrested by the police. Trayvon Martin picked a fight with the wrong guy.
Many of the people in that neighborhood were and still are very openly thankful that they have a neighbor like George Zimmerman who helped protect them and watched after their homes. It's just sad that George had to use lethal force to defend himself and even more sad that this instance has become the battle cry for race baiting idiots and their ignorant followers everywhere.
Yeah, right.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...n_1392591.html At an emergency homeowner’s association meeting on March 1, days after the killing, “one man was escorted out because he openly expressed his frustration because he had previously contacted the Sanford Police Department about Zimmerman approaching him and even coming to his home,” a resident who spoke on the condition of anonymity told HuffPost. “It was also made known that there had been several complaints about George Zimmerman and his tactics" in his neighborhood watch role
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We don't know what happened, but let's say you are right. Don't you think he should at least face negligent homicide charges? Involuntary manslaughter? He was negligent when he violated the rules of the neighborhood watch which specifically state "do not follow" and "don't carry a gun." He was negligent when he left his car to stalk someone in the dark. Now people are saying that if Trayvon Martin did punch him, he had every right to shoot him. In other words, if a man follows you in his car and then you run away (per Zimmerman in the 911 tape) and then he continues to follow you, if you try to protect your own life, you are the criminal and, if he kills you, he's not guilty of anything.
Did that come out right? It's so absurd that I can't even write it sensibly.
it's neither negligent nor illegal to follow someone in public. nor is it illegal to leave your car stalk someone in public. it's also not illegal to ignore a 911 dispatchers advice. it's also legal to murder someone who is severely assaulting you. if one has a permit, then it's not illegal to carry a concealed weapon. following/stalking someone is not a threat to life, therefore, Trayvor was not threatened. getting beat on is a threat to life. we know this from the police report and enhanced video. we know Trayvor had no injuries, other than being shot.
You're so far behind it ain't funny. There had been a meeting when the HOA set up the neighborhood watch: Do not pursue, do not carry a weapon. Zimmerman was at that meeting, he knew the rules and broke them. Apprehension is the job of LE, which is why they get called. The young girl's cell phone was in use until only 1 or 2 minutes before Zimmerman fired. He was tailing a kid walking home from the convenience store and had no right to do so...had in fact been advised NOT to pursue. And now I'm finished...it gets dull having to bring Johnny Come Latelies up to speed.
So he broke the rules of the HOA, what does have to do with the legal case or him not getting arrested for using lethal force to defend himself?
He was never advised not to pursue anyone, the 911 operator told him "we don't need you to do that". There was clearly enough time between the cell phone call and the gun going off for a confrontation to take place, otherwise we wouldn't be talking about a dead 17 year old attacker who messed with the wrong guy.
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But I need to go back to see if anyone answered this yet.
