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Old 04-14-2012, 11:43 AM
 
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No one knows the answer to the origin of life on this planet. Nobody. However, given the most fundamental choice between the only two basic possibilities ..... random acts of nature and purposeful design, the evidence of intelligent design is overwhelming and everywhere.

Intelligent design is turning out be an oxymoron. Why are so many so that were supposedly designed intelligently so damn unintelligent?

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Scientists have been researching evolution for 150 years, and it continues to be well supported by new research. Modern evidence for evolution derives from fossils, from genetics, from the development of organisms, and from many other fields unimaginable to Darwin or even to early 20th-century evolutionary biologists.
Expelled Exposed: Why Expelled Flunks » Intelligent Design
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Old 04-14-2012, 11:49 AM
 
Location: Unperson Everyman Land
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No it's not. It flys in contradiction to every other lesson being taught in schools. There is zero empirical evidence for it, and therefore, no lesson plan can be taught beyond conjecture.



Speaking of "zero", the day public schools begin teaching only that which logic will affirm, we will have to teach school children that there really is no way to conclude a zero-energy state existed before the Big Bang such that nothing existed before the Big Bang which could have acted as the creative force by which the Universe came to be.
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Old 04-14-2012, 12:16 PM
 
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Dear God. Its 2012 and these creationists have yet to evolve from their backward apelike mental condition
Then you too dismiss evolution?

I've always said ... aside the scientific problems that evolution theory has been unable to overcome ... one look at the human species as we exist today is enough evidence alone to reject evolution. It's almost impossible to overlook the growing numbers of knuckle draggers that make up modern society, which is a direct frontal assault on evolution, characterized by the inexplicable predisposition to accept any cockamamie story, no matter how absurd and lacking of common sense ... there seems to be no boundaries for what the so-called "evolved" modern man will believe.

But for God's sake ... or for Darwin's sake ... or just for the sake of sanity, try just once to separate yourself from this tactical and intellectual fraud of attacking creationism as some sort of evidence legitimizing evolution. It's so mind numbingly ignorant to continue doing so, given that disproving one theory cannot possibly prove another.

This is the mark of either an idiot or a fraud, and the tactics of a con artist. If you embrace a certain theory ... regardless of any other competing theory ... the onus is on you to provide evidence supporting yours ... because disproving some other theory does nothing to legitimize yours.

You see, I personally reject the idea of 6 day creation. I also reject your theory that a Man and a Monkey and a Whale and a freaking Apple Tree all share the same original ancestor. So why would you think that disproving 6 day creation would make any impact on me regarding your absurd fairytale? You should be smart enough to understand how that might fail ... if you were truly an evolved primate.
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Old 04-14-2012, 12:22 PM
 
Location: Point Hope Alaska
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If animals just evolved and were not designed; then explain the difference between a cow and a whale.

Each has speech abilities - A cow can say one monotone note: MOO! It has to be led to the barn by a handler. A whale however can sing in 7 octaves - and navigate the globe and travel thousands of miles with no help. Each animal was designed different from the beginning! Neither has changed in over 10,000 years.

Intelligence was behind each & every design!

When you "study" salt water exotic fish - YOU can easily see .. .. The artist @ work; it is more than obvious to anyone that can SEE.
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Old 04-14-2012, 12:31 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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What evidence? You were not there and you are only repeating what you have read.

You have such religious faith and devotion and yet you attempt to use very the thing that you claim to revere to politicize an issue. Very predictable.
Sounds like you are describing people who believe in the theory of evolution.
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Old 04-14-2012, 12:36 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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And Harrier departs even the pretense of reason, and instead launches into full preacher mode!

Hallelujah, brother. When do we eat?
On the contrary.

"Come let us reason together, says the Lord".

- Isaiah 1:18
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Old 04-14-2012, 12:39 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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Ooooh.....let's all play the "vapid platitudes in the absence of actual argument" game. Here's my submission:

My faith has zero to do with the falsity of the Bible - I have studied the book and found it to be lacking. The Bible should stand on its own two feet if it is a valid book. It is so full of holes - that it is laughable that anyone gives it credence. Bible believers love to deflect the argument - by trying to say that evolutionists are "blinded by their faith". That is a cheap tool that you only use because you don't have enough trust in your book - and no wonder!

That was fun!

Aren't you always criticizing others for plagiarism on this board?

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And Josephus, writing in the first century AD would be in position to know that... how exactly?



And Charles Darwin writing in the 19th century would be in a position to know irrefutably - without observation - and lacking a complete record of transitory fossils - that a single cell amoeba over a period of 50 million years transformed itself into a complex multi cell organism known as homo sapien - how exactly?
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Old 04-14-2012, 12:44 PM
 
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Quote-mining? Really?

Doesn't take much effort. It's simply direct evidence refuting the insinuation that there are only religious based arguments against evolution.

Of course, one need mine no further than this thread to come up with plenty of evidence that evolution skipped a generation or two!

Perhaps this was just a predictable consequence of "Island Theory"? That seems to be a popular answer for the evolutionists, ever since it was discovered that Neanderthals actually coexisted with modern homo sapiens for a few hundred years.

Not to be dissuaded by facts ... the evolutionists never let bad news get them down!! So, being the resilient folks that you all are, you dreamed up this explanation that a group of Neanderthals must have been isolated from all of the environmental factors that caused all of their fellow Neanderthals to evolve into modern humans. Of course, there is really no evidence or rational basis for that hypothesis either ... but evolutionists don't need no stinking evidence or rationality ... evolution is already proven ... the debate has been over for a long time ... and that as they say is that. And if those pesky intelligent design buggers keep throwing evidence at us, we're just going to let science do the talking, and call them silly names!
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Old 04-14-2012, 12:48 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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You are quoting from the book that was written to keep ignorant perople of the time fearful and in lockstep?
What do you have to document this rather interesting conclusion as to the purposes of the Bible being written? Or did you just make that up?
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Old 04-14-2012, 12:52 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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When christian dogma is challenged the christians become nasty, snarling beasts.
Ah quite the contrary - the entire premise of this thread is based on evolutionists being so dismayed that anyone might question their precious theory in public schools and seek to weigh its merits in order to find the truth. The thread was begun by someone opposed to students being allowed to initiate a discussion about intelligent design vs. evolution. Quite a stretch to say that the people of faith are reacting to challenges to their point of view - hmnn?
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