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Old 04-24-2012, 04:48 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Where, in Mexico???
Yes. Their birthrate is now down to about the same as the US and their economy is booming.
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Old 04-24-2012, 04:50 AM
 
Location: Too far from home.
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And how many more vans and suvs packed with dozens of illegals made it over the border without crashing? This is just political posturing, illegals continue to pour over the border.
And under the border.

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Tunnel passages across an international border into the United States have become a real problem. There are 40 such tunnels that have been discovered since 9/11, and the great bulk of them are on the southern border. Large-scale smuggling of drugs, weapons, and immigrants takes place today through these tunnels. One tunnel running from San Diego to Tijuana was marked by inordinate sophistication. It was a half mile long. It went 60 to 80 feet deep, 8 feet tall. It had a concrete floor. It was wired for electricity. It had drainage. At one end, 300 pounds of marijuana were found, and at the other end, 300 pounds of marijuana. What was interesting is that the California entry into the tunnel was a very modern warehouse, a huge warehouse compartmented but empty and kept empty for a year. In one office there was a hatch in the floor. It looked much like the hatch which Saddam had secreted himself in. But lifting that hatch disclosed a very sophisticated tunnel. It went under other buildings all the way across the double fence into Mexico and up in Mexico in a building as well.
US-Mexico Border Fence / Great Wall of Mexico
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Old 04-24-2012, 04:52 AM
 
Location: Too far from home.
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Yes. Their birthrate is now down to about the same as the US and their economy is booming.
Then why do they still keep entering the US illegally? Why don't the illegals in the US go back and contribute to their own economy if it's doing so well?
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Old 04-24-2012, 04:54 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Then why do they still keep entering the US illegally? Why don't the illegals in the US go back and contribute to their own economy if it's doing so well?
Did you read the link provided in the OP? Illegal entries are way down and returns to Mexico are way up, for a variety of reasons.
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Old 04-24-2012, 04:55 AM
 
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Where, in Mexico???
Yes, the Mexicans who delay having children until they can have them and limit family size to what they can afford are NOT the ones coming here illegally in large numbers. The responsible types can easily stay in their own country and are becoming it's growing middle class.

We're getting those who have children they cannot afford, births of hispanics in the USA is way way up, much in part to illegals coming over to have babies here which gets them a free pass around the immigration laws and of course the welfare handouts they cannot get in Mexico.

Hispanic Population Growth Fuels U.S. Increase | KPBS.org

The huge increase in birth rates for hispanics in the USA is not because Americans of hispanic ancestry suddenly started gulping fertility pills.
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Old 04-24-2012, 04:57 AM
 
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Did you read the link provided in the OP? Illegal entries are way down and returns to Mexico are way up, for a variety of reasons.
Since when did the government actually start counting illegals as they make their way illegally into the USA?

They can't find them to deport them but they can find them to count them? Yeah right.
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Old 04-24-2012, 04:59 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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The Pew Hispanic Center is actually Obama in disguise?

Question: Nobody ever had an idea of how many were crossing the border before now? If so, where has that 11 million figure we've been hearing about for so many years (yes, even before Obama) come from?
It's an estimate and has been the same number (11 million) since 2006. If that's the case I would like to know why we have had a surge of non English speaking kids entering schools in droves over the past 6 years.
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Old 04-24-2012, 05:02 AM
 
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Another indicator that immigration from Mexico is considerably up:

It's not likely that remittances in 2012 are 8.6% higher than in 2011, and 2011 was 7% higher than 2010 because Mexicans are getting large pay raises. Most likely the sharp increase in remittances reflects more immigrants with close ties to Mexico coming over and sending money home.

Mexico's Feb. remittances up 8.6% year-over-year - MarketWatch

Remittances from Mexicans living abroad rose 8.6% in February from the year-ago month to $1.79 billion, continuing their recovery as the U.S. economy and labor market improves, according to central bank data.
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Old 04-24-2012, 05:04 AM
 
Location: Too far from home.
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It's an estimate and has been the same number (11 million) since 2006. If that's the case I would like to know why we have had a surge of non English speaking kids entering schools in droves over the past 6 years.
Dropping anchor doesn't factor in.
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Old 04-24-2012, 05:05 AM
 
Location: Lower east side of Toronto
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It maybe that those who do not like living in the evil kingdom of Mexico -make a run for it because they know there is no future in such a place. It might be that only those who are good are separating themselves from the bad?

It could be that we are not receiving Mexico's worst but Mexico's best? The rich in Mexico stay put..the poor flee. If wealthy MEXICANS were to migrate north bringing billions of dollar most would welcome such a thing..but rich does not guarantee good.


Mexico might be running out of good people - thus the slow down in migration. Through out history migrants to other nations were making an escape...If I lived in a place where the only way I could get ahead in life was to commit evil...I would run for the north rather than take part in institutional corruption.
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