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Old 04-27-2012, 11:46 AM
 
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It looks like Zimmerman may have the same crack team of prosecution after him that OJ did.

I agree they over-reached and was surprised by murder 2.

Politically there is NO WAY IN HECK that this case gets dropped. It will go to a jury and then if Zimmerman is not found guilty we will get to enjoy a nice round of riots and cries of the jury be racist and so on and so forth.

Zimmerman will then lose a civil wrongful death suit.
Probably not under the stand your ground law....
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Old 04-27-2012, 12:04 PM
 
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Watch Zimmerman turn around and sue the prosecutors and MSNBC and quite possibly win.
I think they are protected against law suits.
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Old 04-27-2012, 12:16 PM
 
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No it is not a perfect example. Zimmerman may argue that but the DA is going to point out the fact that Zimmerman was the one who exited his vehicle and chased the kid down. That law does not apply in that situation. Even the Governor that signed the law and the person who authored it stated it does not apply in this kind of situation. Since Zimmerman was the initial agressor in the matter, he is responsible for what happened after he exited his car. That is what the DA will argue and she may even call to the stand the author of the SYG law to testify. So this is not a slam dunk for Zimmerman.


I don't know where you got your law degree from but that school needs to be closed down.....And I dang sure don't know how you passed the state bar exam!!!!!! Zimmerman was only charged to keep the ghettos from burning AGAIN!!!

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Old 04-27-2012, 12:20 PM
 
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FLASH: Prosecutors ALWAYS over charge. It is a good strategy on their part. It raises the stakes in a plea deal and, if the case goes to trial, it gives the jury the option of the "compromise" verdict of convicting for a lower charge which in the case would be voluntary manslaughter, involuntary manslaughter, reckless and wanton conduct all of which carry some pretty serious time in themselves.
"FLASH:" NO they don't.....
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Old 04-27-2012, 12:22 PM
 
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Yes, in most cases they can. It is up to the judge. But in most cases a defendant can and often is found guilty of a lessor charge. It happens all the time.
It's up to state law......
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Old 04-27-2012, 12:28 PM
 
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No.
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Old 04-27-2012, 01:15 PM
 
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they wont get the conviction

had they gone for manslaughter (voluntary or involuntary) then they would have had a chance for conviction

under murder2 ...they have to prove INTENT...and they cant

summary....he will be found not guilty
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Old 04-28-2012, 05:41 AM
 
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I don't know where you got your law degree from but that school needs to be closed down.....And I dang sure don't know how you passed the state bar exam!!!!!! Zimmerman was only charged to keep the ghettos from burning AGAIN!!!
I passed both the state and national bar the first time. But then I turned around and went back and had a Johnnie Walker!
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Old 04-28-2012, 05:42 AM
 
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"FLASH:" NO they don't.....
Yes they do. It gives them leverage.
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Old 04-28-2012, 05:43 AM
 
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they wont get the conviction

had they gone for manslaughter (voluntary or involuntary) then they would have had a chance for conviction

under murder2 ...they have to prove INTENT...and they cant

summary....he will be found not guilty
I won't speculate on what a jury of 6 might or might not do. But I am fairly sure that the jury will have the lessor charge option of manslaughter to consider.
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