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Old 04-26-2012, 08:04 AM
 
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I completely agree with him. And her actions not only hurt Zimmerman, they also hurt Trayvon's family. His family said they were devastated when he got out on bond. How will they feel when he gets off completely because the prosecuter overcharged and can't back up her charges?

She should have done a thorough review of the evidence, and if charges were warranted, charged appropriately for the evidence she had. She was trying to make a name for herself, and I think she will accomplish that, but it will be a bad name, not a good one.
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Old 04-26-2012, 08:20 AM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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Watch Zimmerman turn around and sue the prosecutors and MSNBC and quite possibly win.
Assuming that he is actually found not guilty, I would hope so. NBC has lied about the facts of this case, slanted their reporting and altered evidence in order to portray this case as racially motivated. All of this destroys Zimmerman's reputation, and further, puts his life, and the life of his family, in danger. I hope he takes them to the cleaners financially. And...I think the executives at NBC should face criminal charges. They have "conspired" to inflame racial tensions to generate a few bucks from additional "news" stories. Sadly, it's worked.

I expect that Zimmerman will walk away not just free...but very rich.

When will the family of Daniel Adkins get their justice?

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Old 04-26-2012, 08:26 AM
 
Location: Houston, TX
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He may be guilty of something but its not 2nd degree murder. He'll get off.
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Old 04-26-2012, 12:05 PM
 
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If his version of events is accurate, then he walks. The STAND YOUR GROUND law applies in this case. It's a LAW and if zimmerman proves to be telling the truth, this is a perfect example of what is meant by it.
No it is not a perfect example. Zimmerman may argue that but the DA is going to point out the fact that Zimmerman was the one who exited his vehicle and chased the kid down. That law does not apply in that situation. Even the Governor that signed the law and the person who authored it stated it does not apply in this kind of situation. Since Zimmerman was the initial agressor in the matter, he is responsible for what happened after he exited his car. That is what the DA will argue and she may even call to the stand the author of the SYG law to testify. So this is not a slam dunk for Zimmerman.
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Old 04-26-2012, 12:09 PM
 
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I completely agree with him. And her actions not only hurt Zimmerman, they also hurt Trayvon's family. His family said they were devastated when he got out on bond. How will they feel when he gets off completely because the prosecuter overcharged and can't back up her charges?

She should have done a thorough review of the evidence, and if charges were warranted, charged appropriately for the evidence she had. She was trying to make a name for herself, and I think she will accomplish that, but it will be a bad name, not a good one.
FLASH: Prosecutors ALWAYS over charge. It is a good strategy on their part. It raises the stakes in a plea deal and, if the case goes to trial, it gives the jury the option of the "compromise" verdict of convicting for a lower charge which in the case would be voluntary manslaughter, involuntary manslaughter, reckless and wanton conduct all of which carry some pretty serious time in themselves.
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Old 04-26-2012, 01:08 PM
 
Location: Va. Beach
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FLASH: Prosecutors ALWAYS over charge. It is a good strategy on their part. It raises the stakes in a plea deal and, if the case goes to trial, it gives the jury the option of the "compromise" verdict of convicting for a lower charge which in the case would be voluntary manslaughter, involuntary manslaughter, reckless and wanton conduct all of which carry some pretty serious time in themselves.
Umm.. If he is charged with 2nd degree murder, the jury can find yes or no, I do not believe they can convict on some other charge, that he wasn't charged with.

They would have had to charge him with both 2nd degree and manslaughter, and then hope for one or the other.
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Old 04-26-2012, 01:21 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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Watch Zimmerman turn around and sue the prosecutors and MSNBC and quite possibly win.
That's how I see it and he has a good case against both. He might have a personal case against Sharpton although Sharpton's a dead beat so any judgment would be uncollectable.
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Old 04-26-2012, 01:23 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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FLASH: Prosecutors ALWAYS over charge. It is a good strategy on their part. It raises the stakes in a plea deal and, if the case goes to trial, it gives the jury the option of the "compromise" verdict of convicting for a lower charge which in the case would be voluntary manslaughter, involuntary manslaughter, reckless and wanton conduct all of which carry some pretty serious time in themselves.
FLASH: If caught doing so they run the risk of violating ethics and disbarment.
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Old 04-27-2012, 11:26 AM
 
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Umm.. If he is charged with 2nd degree murder, the jury can find yes or no, I do not believe they can convict on some other charge, that he wasn't charged with.

They would have had to charge him with both 2nd degree and manslaughter, and then hope for one or the other.
Yes, in most cases they can. It is up to the judge. But in most cases a defendant can and often is found guilty of a lessor charge. It happens all the time.
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Old 04-27-2012, 11:35 AM
 
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FLASH: If caught doing so they run the risk of violating ethics and disbarment.
No they don't. A presecutor or a grand jury can indict on whatever they think the evidence will bring. It is up to a judge and/or jury to decide what sticks and what doesn't. Federal prosecutors are notorius for over charging defendants. They do it all the time. You do a single crime- like taking a bribe- and they charge you with not only the crime but racketeering, conspiracy, engaging in a criminal enterprise, wire fraud, mail fraud, tax evasion and all kinds of stuff that, while not as sexy as the main crime you did, carries alot of teeth when it comes to how much time you will get. You might get a jury that says "OK he didn't really know that money was a bribe but he did use a phone and he didn't pay all the taxes on it". So they find him innocent of the main charge but guilty of tax evasion and mail fraud which carry 20 year prison terms.
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