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Old 04-29-2012, 08:35 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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What part of;

‘This is not new. The Republican complaint is more of a situational complaint than a principled complaint because they certainly weren’t complaining when George W. Bush did this eight years ago.'
Do you not understand?

Maybe there's a "special needs" version available.
Agreed. I remember when this issue was being discussed back when Bush was president. Some of us have been following politics longer than the last presidential election.
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Old 04-29-2012, 08:43 PM
 
Location: OCEAN BREEZES AND VIEWS SAN CLEMENTE
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It's pretty easy to see why our national debt has skyrocketed under this liberal trash POTUS, his ignorant followers are stupid enough to believe his every word.

Thank you, so much, some of us really do get it! AND THEN, AND THEN AND THEN? there were some who made the many excuses! and they are endless.
And at this point with a tanking ecnomy, housing criris, and unemployment businessess shutting doors, the excuses are pointless.

Don't the excuses make you laugh?
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Old 04-29-2012, 08:49 PM
 
Location: OCEAN BREEZES AND VIEWS SAN CLEMENTE
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Of course that's the problem, when you have no skin in the game it's easy to spend spend spend. Obama voters don't care about debt, they come from a world where debt is invisible and personal responsibility is nothing more than a joke that people talk about on TV.
Change things up some, this were any body else but the king, these Obama VOTERS, would be singing a mighty different tune, i GUARANTEE!
They don't care about debt, because Obama is making it, don't u know?
This President is disgusting, he does not know the personal responsibility and what it means, all he is good for, is making jokes, being on late nite tv, pointing the finger at everyone but himself, and not taking responsibility for his screw ups. Gag me no respect for someone who blames everyone but himself for his own errors.
I think he thinks he is a legend in everyone's mind, guess he did not get the memo!
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Old 04-29-2012, 08:59 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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Best part of the OP's link and spot on:

‘This is not new. The Republican complaint is more of a situational complaint than a principled complaint because they certainly weren’t complaining when George W. Bush did this eight years ago.'
All 47 of Bush's is what you are talking about and Obama has 124 at this point and I bet he has more than Bush's total added on before November. That would be more than 170 of them.

You did catch the fact that the numbers for others were totals for their second term years and Obama's are only for half of his last year. Maybe you didn't understand that part.
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Old 04-29-2012, 09:13 PM
 
Location: Baltimore
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You apparently if you came up with that ignorant reply to my comments. The entire basis of this thread is that Obama is using tax dollars and lying about his campaign fund raising trips, he's claiming that they're official events which are paid for by tax payers.

Did you even read the first post in this thread?

'In the complaint, Reince Priebus, RNC chairman, wrote: ‘Throughout his administration, but particularly in recent weeks, President Obama has been passing off campaign travel as “official events,” thereby allowing taxpayers, rather than his campaign, to pay for his re-election efforts.’"
That isn't the basis of this thread. Obama hate is the basis of this thread. Nothing more nothing less. These issues always come up in the re-election campaign of the President. It's called "permanent campaigning" and it isn't unique to Obama. And the only reason that you and others are complaining about it now is because it's Obama doing it.

For example, even in 2001 Bush was already campaigning for the next election:

"This latest two-day trip of George W. Bush is his fourth to Florida, a state critical to his re-election. It is becoming to this Republican president what California was to Bill Clinton - acquiring a most-favored-state status as the White House looks ahead two, and, more important, four years from now. Of course, all presidents have their eye on the next election from the day they take office, and heavy use of Air Force One is a key component of re-election strategy. But so far, President Bush is out-flying even his peripatetic predecessor, visiting 30 states (not counting Maryland, home of Camp David) in less than five months."

http://www.csmonitor.com/2001/0606/p2s2.html

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Old 04-29-2012, 09:38 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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Yawnnnnn. Sounds like republicans are jealous of this president who has a good sense on humor, makes good speeches, can actually sing and is still pretty popular. Now they are scared that he is making more money than Romney ever can.
Do you have any idea how much money it takes to fire up Air Force One to go and come back? I guess you don't know that we are paying for those money raising trips, though do you?
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Old 04-29-2012, 09:42 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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You don't understand the difference between people willingly donating their money to a politician and the government wasting our tax dollars? Who's ignorant exactly?
I am not willingly paying tax dollars for him to fly to college campuses to make speeches. However, my donations are used to fly that big old air plane anyway.
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Old 04-30-2012, 05:15 AM
 
Location: Massachusetts
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What part of;

‘This is not new. The Republican complaint is more of a situational complaint than a principled complaint because they certainly weren’t complaining when George W. Bush did this eight years ago.'

Do you not understand?

Maybe there's a "special needs" version available.
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Here let me translate for Tempest:

"Obama is doing something wrong and what's different is that he's doing it more than the last 5 presidents have done combined. I don't really care because like most mindless Obama sack rider who still blame everything on GWB, I'm completely ok with Obama doing everything wrong and you're a racist!!!"
That sums it up well. Good post from Backspace.....
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Old 04-30-2012, 05:17 AM
 
Location: Massachusetts
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You don't understand the difference between people willingly donating their money to a politician and the government wasting our tax dollars? Who's ignorant exactly?
Questions:

Does Air Force One run on donated money?

Does the Secret Service operate with donated money?
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Old 04-30-2012, 05:19 AM
 
Location: 77441
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Best part of the OP's link and spot on:

‘This is not new. The Republican complaint is more of a situational complaint than a principled complaint because they certainly weren’t complaining when George W. Bush did this eight years ago.'


what part of:

"Im going to be different from Bush"

"Barrak (said this every time he opened his mouth) Obama "

dont you understand ?
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