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View Poll Results: Should churchs be taxed?
Yes, tax them to the full extend of other businesses. 31 46.97%
Yes, but allow certain exemptions to be fair. 15 22.73%
No, they deserve to remain exempt. 20 30.30%
Voters: 66. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 05-12-2012, 08:46 AM
 
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Churches make a profit whenever they can.




Read more: Roman Catholics: The Vatican's Wealth - TIME
Sigh.

You are suggesting that the churchs operate on a hand to mouth basis with no assets?

They have to pay their power bills, thier employees, put new roofs on and so on and so forth.

Additionally, they may have funds created by special donation designed to offer things like scholarships, aid for the poor etc. that are in perpetuity and thus require stewardship of assets.

Signed....the bigot buster.
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Old 05-12-2012, 08:48 AM
 
Location: Mississippi
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NO. They are not in the business of profits.
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Old 05-12-2012, 08:50 AM
 
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Under current law if a church preaches who to vote for the can and do lose their tax-exempt status.
^^^A number of religious and non-religious organizations have had thier knuckles rapped hard over this. Good post.
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Old 05-12-2012, 08:51 AM
 
Location: Alameda, CA
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The Constitution only bars Congress from making laws about the establishment of religion, no where does it say churches should get a pass on paying for the municipal services they use that taxpayers foot the bill for, police, fire, water, sewer, sanitation, etc., etc., etc......................



Why should non-churchgoers be forced to contribute to the support of churches?
Perhaps its different among the various states based on how services are paid for and how the state raises revenue, but the Church I attend in CA pays for many of the services you referenced. They do also get charged annual use fees by the various local governing bodies.
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Old 05-12-2012, 08:53 AM
 
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Perhaps its different among the various states based on how services are paid for and how the state raises revenue, but the Church I attend in CA pays for many of the services you referenced. They do also get charged annual use fees by the various local governing bodies.
Where I used to live in NJ, all the services I mentioned were part of my property taxes, as far as I could determine the churches don't pay those taxes.
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Old 05-12-2012, 08:54 AM
 
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Under current law as your link points out Churches are taxed on any for profit businesses they run.

Another $6 billion of church money was said by Time to be tied up in “unspecified investments.” All of these activities, it should be noted, are categorized as “unrelated business income” and subject to state and federal taxes.
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Old 05-12-2012, 08:54 AM
 
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The Constitution only bars Congress from making laws about the establishment of religion, no where does it say churches should get a pass on paying for the municipal services they use that taxpayers foot the bill for, police, fire, water, sewer, sanitation, etc., etc., etc......................



Why should non-churchgoers be forced to contribute to the support of churches?
Can you please show some evidence that shows that churches do not pay their water or sewer bills?
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Old 05-12-2012, 08:55 AM
 
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Where I used to live in NJ, all the services I mentioned were part of my property taxes, as far as I could determine the churches don't pay those taxes.
I live in NJ. I have never not gotten a water and sewer bill.
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Old 05-12-2012, 08:56 AM
 
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The Constitution only bars Congress from making laws about the establishment of religion, no where does it say churches should get a pass on paying for the municipal services they use that taxpayers foot the bill for, police, fire, water, sewer, sanitation, etc., etc., etc......................



Why should non-churchgoers be forced to contribute to the support of churches?
This is a solid argument.

I believe the general counter-argument is that they provide a societal good that merits tax exemption.

This would be the argument for any non-profit be it the NAACP, a church, American Cancer Society, shriners and so on and so forth.
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Old 05-12-2012, 09:07 AM
 
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Can you please show some evidence that shows that churches do not pay their water or sewer bills?
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I live in NJ. I have never not gotten a water and sewer bill.
In my former hometown sewer was part of my property tax bil along with trash pick up.
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