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In addition to watching a few documentaries, I've actually MET and interacted with many transgendered people around here... and in reality, most of them seem fairly open about who they are.
Do you generally base your opinions on what you've seen on television?
What would you be basing your opinion on had you never met and interacted with the "many transgendered" you say you have?
Where do you live that you get to do so? They just don't show up in my life (not yet, at least), and I'm not going to seek them out, I don't have the time. Kinda busy.
Hey - it's no different than people who base their opinions on what they read in the news and armchair know-it-all folks who drool while listening to what any sitting POTUS says is THE TRUTH...what NPR says is the truth/Fox News says is the truth....live and learn, right? Until you do: shut up? Is that how it works?
Well, when I meet a transgendered person, and he/she tells me him/her self that he/she was ALWAYS open, from day one, about what they were/are going through, and with those who they get themselves romantically involved in (even on that FIRST date) ...that will be one.
Ohh Transgendered people should disclose to you their past from day one? My life isn't about YOU.
And my sex on my birth cert. isn't T...its none of your business, just like everything you've gone through in your past isn't any of my business.
What would you be basing your opinion on had you never met and interacted with the "many transgendered" you say you have?
Most likely studies produced by reliable sources, which I would read either in print or online... I'm a reference librarian, so I have a plethora of reliable sources at my fingertips. LOL
That's not to say I never get any information from television, but if I'm going to pass judgments on a whole group, I'll at least try to do a little practical research first.
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Where do you live that you get to do so? They just don't show up in my life (not yet, at least), and I'm not going to seek them out, I don't have the time. Kinda busy.
San Francisco Bay Area - the city of SF itself for about 5 years, and the Peninsula for almost 20 years. Where else??
Pretty busy myself, I've just encountered my share from living in the Bay Area for so long... I also work with the public, and have become friendly with some TG patrons along the way. One of my favorite former patrons was a m2f transsexual, who would actually switch off between dressing as male or female. She told me she preferred identifying and dressing as a woman, but had to occasionally give her skin a break from the daily shaving/primping. And trust me, even while dressed in women's clothing, a blind person would know she wasn't born female - not that she tried to "pass," in fact she was open and proud of who she was.
P.S. Interesting side-note, she was an honorably retired Naval officer.
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Hey - it's no different than people who base their opinions on what they read in the news and armchair know-it-all folks who drool while listening to what any sitting POTUS says is THE TRUTH...what NPR says is the truth/Fox News says is the truth....live and learn, right? Until you do: shut up? Is that how it works?
Well, when I meet a transgendered person, and he/she tells me him/her self that he/she was ALWAYS open, from day one, about what they were/are going through, and with those who they get themselves romantically involved in (even on that FIRST date) ...that will be one.
Until then, it IS what I see on TV.
Fair enough, but I still think personal experiences/observations and in-depth research should trump watching a few documentaries. And for the record, I don't believe half of what any politician says. What's that old saying, "A gaffe is when a politician tells the truth?" I also don't follow news-only sources like FOX News, MSNBC, NPR, etc. They're all biased to some degree, and I don't like having the news spoon-fed to me like that.
Ohh Transgendered people should disclose to you their past from day one? My life isn't about YOU.
And my sex on my birth cert. isn't T...its none of your business, just like everything you've gone through in your past isn't any of my business.
Really stupid logic.......because it isn't your "past". You are STILL a man/woman no matter how much you hack yourself up.
Really stupid logic.......because it isn't your "past". You are STILL a man/woman no matter how much you hack yourself up.
Would you be willing to present yourself to science to support this claim? We can dose you up with hormones, perform re-sex surgery, and buy you a whole new wardrobe.
Would you be willing to present yourself to science to support this claim? We can dose you up with hormones, perform re-sex surgery, and buy you a whole new wardrobe.
And biology still said you were a man/woman from day 1.
Would you be willing to present yourself to science to support this claim? We can dose you up with hormones, perform re-sex surgery, and buy you a whole new wardrobe.
and your sex chromisomes will not have changed. no matter what you do to the outside, you are biologically still the same sex you were born with. Sorry, science is not capable of switching someone from a XX to a XY and vice versa.
It isn't primitive per se. I suspected as much because up until most recently, men who underwent sexual reassignment looked like men who went under a sexual reassignment, despite the efforts with hormone therapy and breast implants. The pageant contestant looks very much like a natural, albeit very tall woman.
I don't think you run any real risk of ever encountering a woman who was born with male genitalia through the course of your life. Chances are if you ever did, you are not her type anyway.
Not rich enough probably.
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