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Old 05-22-2012, 09:53 PM
 
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Actually, yes, they were. But read my post again anyway, because that was not the strategy I emphasized.
they paid them pennies on the dollar because they were bankrupt before they were even purchased. Bain managed to save I heard 78% of the businesses they bought into, while 22% of them continued to have hardships and ended up going out of business. These figures directly dispute the strategy you emphasized because you dont get rich from buying up bankrupt companies and then sinking tens of millions into them.
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Old 05-22-2012, 09:54 PM
 
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Biane is no more unethcal than nay business from what i have seen. in fact no more unethical that a huge per cenatge of americans ;depending o what you call unethical.Its all i the definition really. i would say the loan to Slyinda where unethcal prepayment to specail interest of invetors money and the investor was the american taxpater.I would even say that anyoe who got a loan and signed a false income statement to get it are not only unethical but chragablke under the law. OP might have heard them called "Lier loans".
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Old 05-22-2012, 09:55 PM
 
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Bain Capital operates like the Gypsies that buy all the crap from stores going out of business, and resell it from their van.

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they paid them pennies on the dollar because they were bankrupt before they were even purchased. Bain managed to save I heard 78% of the businesses they bought into, while 22% of them continued to have hardships and ended up going out of business. These figures directly dispute the strategy you emphasized because you dont get rich from buying up bankrupt companies and then sinking tens of millions into them.
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Old 05-22-2012, 09:58 PM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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they paid them pennies on the dollar because they were bankrupt before they were even purchased.
Now who's just making stuff up?
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Old 05-22-2012, 09:59 PM
 
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Enron still xists in its original entity, and sells on the stock exchange under the symbol NRNQ
http://www.marketocracy.com/cgi-bin/...age/symbol=ENE

No market data for Enron since 2003.
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Old 05-22-2012, 10:02 PM
 
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]Whats the beginning point that we can use in order to criticize WalMart?
Th OP used Wal-MArt as an example with enron, you'll have to ask him to clarify.
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Old 05-23-2012, 04:36 AM
 
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Thats because your looking in the wrong spot. Not all corporations trade on the stck exchange.
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Th OP used Wal-MArt as an example with enron, you'll have to ask him to clarify.
the OP isnt here arguing with me, you are.

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Old 05-23-2012, 04:40 AM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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They make money for their investors.

How is that bad?
So did mining companies in the 'good ol' days' when safety standards were non-existent and workers regularly died on the job, I guess you'd like to go back to that just as long as the investors get paid, eh?

That's exactly what you're supporting if ROI is to be the only thing a company is judged by.

Companies that lay-off American workers and off-shore their operations to sweat shops make money for their investors, do you really think that';s suatainable and good for the country in the long-term?
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Old 05-23-2012, 04:46 AM
 
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So did mining companies in the 'good ol' days' when safety standards were non-existent and workers regularly died on the job, I guess you'd like to go back to that just as long as the investors get paid, eh?
Where did anyone suggest such a thing?
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Old 05-23-2012, 04:58 AM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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Where did anyone suggest such a thing?
"They make money for their investors.

How is that bad?"



It's suggested by implying making money for investors is the sole criteria a company should be judged by.
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