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You want liberty and personal freedom when it suits you.
If this were the other way around, you would be screaming about how the business should be shut down.
If I had a bar or restaurant business i would ban gays until they stopped demanding marriage!
I would? I wasn't aware you had a crystal ball.
Your situation is discriminatory because you are banning a specific group solely based on their sexual orientation. If you said you are banning both straights and gays from your establishment until gays stop asking for marriage, then no discrimination exists.
Why are you people so clueless about how the law works?
Frankly, there should be no reason why females would go to a gay club to have a bachelorette party, but some ladies thought it was a fun place to go.
The owner now forbids straight bachelorette parties until gays can marry.
However, this is clearly a violation of the Unruh Civil Rights Law in the State of California. I wonder if there are any attorneys who want to make a name for themselves that will come forward to challenge the owner based on California's sexual orientation discrimination laws.
I'm not going back to read all the ridiculousness I'm sure this thread contains. I am sure just about any gay person that's ever hung out at a popular gay club knows how incredibly annoying bachelorette party crowds can sometimes be. The ones that frequent one of the popular clubs here that I've seen often interrupt the show being loud and obnoxious, getting up on stage, taking up entire rows at the front and standing all the time, etc. Basically, they perhaps get a little too "wild and crazy" and start turning off the rest of the clientele. I've never been to The Abbey but, considering how popular of a destination it is, I would not be one bit surprised to find out that some of this is behind their decision.
Cool, I can go into a Mcdonalds in California and demand a Mc rib when they are no longer on the menu, and still get one. If they refuse then they are discriminating based on my sexual orientation.
Right?
But only if they used to offer it to lesbians.... but now they don't and they might be thinking about offering it to straights from outta state who prefer Wendys but only when they are about to get hitched. Or something like that.
Well that makes as much sense as unLucky Gem's non-argument.
Who is "no one"? Certainly not Angelenos. L.A. is defined by its neighborhoods and in the case of municipalities - individual cities are considered and understood as quite distinct from the city of Los Angeles. West Hollywood is not a neighborhood in Los Angeles nor is Beverly Hills - they are distinct cities. I have no dog in this fight - I couldn't live further from the westside - and I don't particularly like West Hollywood, but I will not allow the city to be portrayed as just another part of L.A. when it is not.
Harrier is right on this one. Most ppl that live in weho take a particular pride that they live in weho (at least the ones west of fairfax, can't speak for the nasty russian immigrants), some for the sake of gay pride, some for the cache that it implies ("beverly hills adjacent" if you will). This is something far and distinct from the cesspool of Los Angeles.
Considering there are laws against discriminating against a person based on gender, race, religion, or sexual orientation, I think that businesses should work within the law.
I have never seen a "gay" business that wasn't more than accepting of every orientation.
The gay business in question certainly isn't accepting of every other orientation, now are they?
I'm not going back to read all the ridiculousness I'm sure this thread contains. I am sure just about any gay person that's ever hung out at a popular gay club knows how incredibly annoying bachelorette party crowds can sometimes be. The ones that frequent one of the popular clubs here that I've seen often interrupt the show being loud and obnoxious, getting up on stage, taking up entire rows at the front and standing all the time, etc. Basically, they perhaps get a little too "wild and crazy" and start turning off the rest of the clientele. I've never been to The Abbey but, considering how popular of a destination it is, I would not be one bit surprised to find out that some of this is behind their decision.
Unless you banned straight people as well as gay people, you would be discriminating against a group based on their sexual orientation.
Of course if you just stopped a particular service to ALL customers, like this bar has done, then you'd be okay.
Why is that so hard to understand?
What do you not understand?
Why do you want government involved?
If I say that I don't want gays in my business, why should anyone demand that I do so?
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